The Beretta M9 in service

[Todd.K]

I only ever saw problems with the magazines. And those were supposedly spec’d with that rough finish against the recommendation of checkmate.

With good mags they ran fine dusted up.

[AndyLate]

I only ever saw problems with the magazines. And those were supposedly spec’d with that rough finish against the recommendation of checkmate.

With good mags they ran fine dusted up.

I saw more than 1 broken trigger return spring in the Army, I blame poor maintenance. I shot expert the first time I fired an M9, but I still remember how weird the grip and DA trigger (and DA/SA transition) felt.

Andy

P.S. Not a hater, I own a 92G and just ordered a Trigger Job in a Bag for it.

[prdubi]

I saw more than 1 broken trigger return spring in the Army, I blame poor maintenance. I shot expert the first time I fired an M9, but I still remember how weird the grip and DA trigger (and DA/SA transition) felt.

Andy

P.S. Not a hater, I own a 92G and just ordered a Trigger Job in a Bag for it.

Another notch in the door for sabotage.

Deliberate sabotage.

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[AndyLate]

Another notch in the door for sabotage.

Deliberate sabotage.

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Never attribute to malice that which is caused by ignorance and laziness.

Andy

[prdubi]

Never attribute to malice that which is caused by ignorance and laziness.

Andy

Yeah well , the unit armorer was great on the m4 and m16, 240 and saw along with the 50bmg.
M9?
Barely touched it and his manual didn't bother.



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[ODgreenpizza]

Reliability problems due to bad mags, poor maintenance, and use of non Beretta replacement parts. New guns with new mags ran fine.

Beretta also developed and incorporated engineerng changes into the commercial guns they couldn't incorporate into mil spec guns since the improvements deviated from mil spec. The USMC sand resistant mags are nice.

[Slater]

I believe the M9A1 was strictly a commercial product with no TDP or milspec drawings associated with it. So the USMC could get upgrades (such as the latest generation locking block, etc.) without going through several layers of approval and justification.

[yellowfin]

Pistols are mainly carried by people who don’t often go where they can be shot up.

I served when the wrong finish checkmate mags were fielded. Nobody got killed because of them.

On the largeness of the M9. I’ve seen plenty of smaller people who never shot a pistol before do fine with them.

Did anyone ever actually get in a gun fight in an actual war with an M9...like ever? Seriously, any combatants against US forces actually get put down specifically by that in circumstances where it actually mattered who had what gun? Every actual combat use I've read or listened to involved Sig 226's or G17s or 19s.

The only time I've read or heard of differences of pistols being notable was in the Philippines fighting against the Moros which demonstrated some weak .38 revolver caliber being insufficient thus creating the demand for the .45 and thus the 1911.

[sinister]

Did anyone ever actually get in a gun fight in an actual war with an M9...like ever? Seriously, any combatants against US forces actually get put down specifically by that in circumstances where it actually mattered who had what gun? Every actual combat use I've read or listened to involved Sig 226's or G17s or 19s.

"WASHINGTON — At least seven U.S. troops were wounded Saturday when an Afghan soldier allegedly fired on them inside a military compound in northern Afghanistan, the second apparent insider attack in a week.

The incident occurred around 2 p.m. local time, during a training exercise at Camp Shaheen in Mazar-e Sharif. The attacker, a commando assigned to the Afghan army's 209th corps, allegedly fired three rocket-propelled grenades at the Americans before continuing the attack with two M4 carbines, an Afghan defense officials told Military Times. The assailant was later shot dead by an American armed with a pistol, the Afghan official said.

There are no American fatalities, according to a statement from the NATO command headquartered in Kabul. The wounded were evacuated and the incident is under investigation, officials said."

[Todd.K]

Did anyone ever actually get in a gun fight in an actual war with an M9...like ever? Seriously, any combatants against US forces actually get put down specifically by that in circumstances where it actually mattered who had what gun?

I would say it matters to machine gunners. The MG stays in place and manned on a defensive position 24-7. The machine gunner might need to sleep, piss, or eat, so he gets the M9 to go with him.