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    So 7 months later..... I have tried the Raptor SD, the new gen BCM and the G$ SD. Raptor was at the bottom of the list. I think the BCM and G$ are tied for whatever mitigation they bring to the table. I ended up liking the G$ the most not for its gas mitigation but for it's ergonomics. I'll eventually sell by two BCMs and replace them with G$ CHs. I ran these all on various length rifles (5.56 - 14.5, 11.5 and 10.3 7.62 x 39 - 11.5 and 16) using a Rugged 7.62, Polo 30, Polo, Polo K and YHM Fat Cat. (I did play with a buddy's Ventum 7.62 and thought it was noticeably louder than the Polo on a 5.56 gun. But was also shooting indoors so that may have played into it.)

    When shooting outdoors, especially when running and gunning like in a CQB set up, I don't think it really matters all that much. Assuming the rifle is well set up. If you are stationary (shooting strings from supported or a barricade rest) it starts to get a little more noticeable depending on which way the wind is blowing. Shooting indoors in a booth when your ejection port is facing the wall? Absolutely. And I think this is where some folks (myself included during the conjugal visit period of my can ownership) make the mistake of labeling a can as being "too gassy." The can may very well have high back pressure, but directing the gas to a wall that your face is 2 feet away from is only going to amplify the effect.

    Ultimately the conclusion I came to was that a CH can make an impact, but not as great of a one as their manufacturers would lead you to believe. It's part of the overall set up, but not THE part that is going to solve all your gas issues. So buy whichever one works the best for you as a CH first and foremost.

    Next up, I ordered a BRT tube for my Colt barreled 10.3 to try out. But gas has to go someplace, right? And now that the Ventum 5.56 is out....... Kid will just have to go to a state school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch110 View Post
    <snip>it starts to get a little more noticeable depending on which way the wind is blowing.
    That's really it. I really only feel safe shooting a suppressed gas gun with a healthy tail wind. And I (somewhat) jokingly want a gun mounted walgreen's fan to keep the air flow pushing gas down range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I’m glad that you had a positive experience, but I promise that bolt velocity is not reduced vs unsuppressed with the Ventum.

    most silencers are designed such that they have a greater resistance to forward gas flow than rearward, so that influences “path of least resistance”. You are right that the extra gas isn’t mostly coming through the tube itself, rather down the bore.

    Don’t think of the silencer simply as extra barrel, rather as a balloon with two nozzles, or a capacitor. There’s a volume present with a great deal of pressure, so path of least resistance is a relative term…it’ll still escape in every direction it can until pressure hits zero. Even without a silencer, there is some backflow down the bore, just not as noticeable. Anyone that’s ever had to clean a 240 will have experienced this.
    The capacitor reference is SPOT on. Well done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    The capacitor reference is SPOT on. Well done.
    He's an Amp Builder.
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    Having recently moved from a G$ ACH to a current-gen BCM long latch (to clear my G45 on a FAST mount), I can confirm they are on-par with each other for gas. Well done BCM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    He's an Amp Builder.
    Being a huge audiophile, I must ask *what kind of amps*???


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    Just for curiosity, anyone found a gasbuster that works for left-hand shooters? I know PRI explicitly says theirs are unsuitable for southpaws...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    Being a huge audiophile, I must ask *what kind of amps*???
    Maybe I was wrong. It's HKguns who had the "Tweed Deluxe" amp build thread. I thought it was 1168 when he made the "cap" reference.
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    Unfortunately, I know very little about amplifiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Maybe I was wrong. It's HKguns who had the "Tweed Deluxe" amp build thread. I thought it was 1168 when he made the "cap" reference.
    Yep, that was me Mark.

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