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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkland View Post
    Can I take a hobby grade rifle, change some parts and end up with a "just as good as" or better rifle than a factory built 6920 for cheaper?

    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    At what point does your junky AR cost more than a Colt that is 800-1150$ depending on the day?
    This exactly. I think people need to wake up to the fact that Colt enjoys many government contracts even after losing the M4 to FN. The recovered all of their R&D expenses and setup costs a LONG time ago. They are the closest thing this country has to a state arsenal. They make better rifles that are cheaper than anyone else making a similar rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    This exactly. I think people need to wake up to the fact that Colt enjoys many government contracts even after losing the M4 to FN. The recovered all of their R&D expenses and setup costs a LONG time ago. They are the closest thing this country has to a state arsenal. They make better rifles that are cheaper than anyone else making a similar rifle.
    With the depth of research they have done, I still hope some “cool” things continue to come from their refining the AR.

    Personally, I’m still curious about the new FN rifle and whether it sneaks in as a new service rifle. That would be a whole new weapon system.

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    Colt needs to win another contract for rifles or they are toast. I love Colt but who are we kidding here? Colt won't survive the civie mkt as they've said fu for too long to civies, lack any real innovation, marketing is awful and seem about as energetic as a geriatric at rock concert where everyone is on speed

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    I just purchase a new Colt SOCOM FSP bbl and a stripped upper and the rest NOS parts. Gonna send the bbl to John Thomas for a P&W. It will get a Vortex LPVO and some 77 gr OTM. We'll see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTGERS95 View Post
    Colt needs to win another contract for rifles or they are toast. I love Colt but who are we kidding here? Colt won't survive the civie mkt as they've said fu for too long to civies, lack any real innovation, marketing is awful and seem about as energetic as a geriatric at rock concert where everyone is on speed
    ^^^This 100%, Colt got rid of all their best engineers and replaced them with Used Car Salesmen looking for contracts with foreign governments instead of catering to those thousands of Vets just getting out of the military after using their products. If 13 years ago I could get a Colt with a Mid-length GS and a Free-float rail, I would have, but I couldn't so I got a DD instead and really never looked back. Then around 2014 when the market recovered after Newtown I could have gotten a 6920 for $850 but I could order a BCM Middy and a Spikes Lower for $950 and it came with a Troy quadrail, as much as Colt is a good company and makes really good ARs, others came with more innovation and more features and just didn't make as much sense to the consumer to go with a Colt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTGERS95 View Post
    Colt needs to win another contract for rifles or they are toast. I love Colt but who are we kidding here? Colt won't survive the civie mkt as they've said fu for too long to civies, lack any real innovation, marketing is awful and seem about as energetic as a geriatric at rock concert where everyone is on speed
    Creepy, I was just reading an aerospace analyst saying the exact same thing about Boeing--he expects F-15EX to be their last "new airframe" contract for US mil and similar albeit less advanced stagnation and decay on the commercial side.
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    Where Colt has its advantage is you know when you buy one it has good bones. Barrel, BCG, upper and lower are all going to be of sound spec. Where I think CZ can help is expanding on that concept. If I could buy a Colt based rifle with some of the options being offered by companies like Centurion I would seriously consider it. I think that is their future if they chose to go down that path.

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    Or imagine if Colt came out with a "Clone Correct" line. There would be guys spooging all over themselves to get in on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch110 View Post
    Or imagine if Colt came out with a "Clone Correct" line. There would be guys spooging all over themselves to get in on that.
    Heck, import some of the improvements they own from Diemaco on the C7/C8... ask for a side-by-side shoot-off between an updated C8A3 and an FN M4 and my bet is Colt would have the better rifle this round.
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