The rise and fall of the SCAR.

[1168]

When I think of the SCAR I think of the H myself.

The H has lived on in SOF. Though I’m not sure what it does better than the SR25.

[mack7.62]

What the SCAR H does better than the SR25, half the price, full auto, folding stock and can use a 13" barrel. M110 was a heavy pig something like 19 lbs, Delta got M110K1's and I think maybe Marines got M110K1 uppers to use on their MK11 lowers, SEAL's, Air Force SOF and Rangers got SCAR H's and now Army DM's are getting HK's.

[SteyrAUG]

The testers specifically hated the reciprocating charging handle.

It was my smallest complaint about the SCAR, and honestly eliminated the need for a forward assist. The whole rifle was terribly front heavy, really big and clunky and not terribly accurate. Did almost NOTHING that existing AR platforms were already doing better, the ONLY thing it had over the AR was a side folding stock. It also didn't strike me as particularly durable. I know buffer tubes break on drop tests but everything about the SCAR felt vulnerable.

It's one of those rifles I wanted, finally got one, was greatly disappointed and sold it. Right up there with the HK MR556 and HK MR762.

[C-grunt]

Jeff Guerwich (I probably butchered his name) has a video about why it wasn't adopted. He was part of the test and eval of it. Very interesting.

https://youtu.be/Y5EP9G0p8es?si=KiA75ou8xp58dJ1J

[C-grunt]

On the civilian side I think it kind of failed because of the price. I actually really like the rifle. But Im not paying 3k dollars for one.

[mack7.62]

I wouldn't exactly call it a failure still being made and sold today. There are a lot more countries using it than those listed below, not sure how many though.

Belgian Armed Forces replacing the FN FNC as service rifle L, H, EGLM 13,827 2011-
Bosnia and Herzegovina L, L CQC 9,000+ 2012-
Chilean Marine Corps L, H 13,200 2013–
France Armée de terre H PR 2600 2019
Peruvian Army H 8,110 2013
Portuguese Army, as standard service rifle L, H, H (PR) 15,940 2019

[1168]

What the SCAR H does better than the SR25, half the price, full auto, folding stock and can use a 13" barrel. M110 was a heavy pig something like 19 lbs, Delta got M110K1's and I think maybe Marines got M110K1 uppers to use on their MK11 lowers, SEAL's, Air Force SOF and Rangers got SCAR H's and now Army DM's are getting HK's.

When I said I don’t know what it does better, I really meant that, because I’m no sniper or DM. I do know that the SCAR H with a can is rather beefy, too.

MARSOC also has them.

[markm]

Lord I HATE the SCAR. I literally hate the idea of having to shoot those things. The H is miserable to shoot with the recoil. The L is just stupid because you can just grab an M4 and have a way nicer carbine.

Strikes me that too many chefs were in the kitchen on this idiotic creation.

[HKGuns]

Lord I HATE the SCAR. I literally hate the idea of having to shoot those things. The H is miserable to shoot with the recoil. The L is just stupid because you can just grab an M4 and have a way nicer carbine.

Strikes me that too many chefs were in the kitchen on this idiotic creation.

“Oh, but it’s the softest recoiling 7.62 rifle ever produced.”

- Says those who have never pulled the trigger on one or have zero other points of reference.

I like my SCAR17 alright and will keep it, however: 1. It ain’t that accurate 2. It just about tore my left thumb off 3. Is very front heavy 4. IT RECOILS LIKE A BITCH. - Contrary to what you hear from all the Commie-Tube “experts.”

Oh, and I’m not recoil sensitive, but I’d much prefer to shoot my 458 SOCOM AR.

[Possum 20]

I find it interesting that some think the SCAR 17 has too much recoil or isn't accurate? I own 2 SCAR 16s, 1 SCAR 17 and a SCAR 20. My wife owns a SCAR 17. This is my personal thoughts with thousands of rounds through all. Who ever complained about the charging handle on an AK? Run it on the right side if you are worried about getting your thumb/stoppages. I do have mine on the left side and it is almost never an issue. I have had it cut my hand/thumb probably three or four times. Always from an odd shooting position. My wife shoots mostly a BCM ELW . She mostly hunts with her SCAR 17. In a three gun this summer she did get a good left hand thumb tear because she is used to an AR. My wife is 5'6" and 120lbs. This is by far and away the most mild recoiling .308 either of us has shot. We have or have owned/shot FALS/CETME/FN49/AR/ Bolt guns to compare. Both our guns with junk ammo are pretty close to 2MOA and with good stuff can get real close to an MOA. I have shot on paper side by side with a buddy of mine and his JP .308 AR and both shot identical group sizes. I have never papered an M110, but have shot steel. I have some DMR/Sniper experience in AO Topeka 05-06. The 17 would work great in that role. During those missions I packed an M24 and an M4. The SCAR 17 would have been nice as I feel that would have allowed me to pack only one rifle.The SCAR 17 with a suppressor does suck to pack. The addition of a suppressor turns a great handling rifle into a front heavy sucks to pack or shoot from any position but bi-pod prone. Since 2017 I have been using my SCAR 16 for matches. My rifle splits are better with a 16 than an AR of comparable weight. Now I have shot heavy ARs that can keep up, but it appears to me that if weight is equal then the SCAR 16 shines. That said if I had to pack one everyday again I would still most likely take an M4. The SCAR 16 is too heavy bare gun. Add a few things on the SCAR 16 rail and I think you would have quite the pig. My M4 in IZ by day 2 had all the wizbangs removed and was carried with just an optic and forward grip from then on out. Now to touch on the SCAR 20. Mine now has a folding stock as it works better to pack in a truck shooting prairie dogs. The 20 really disappointed me in the accuracy dept.Factory it shot no better than my 17 just was 10 feet long an weighted more. I have added an EC tuner brake and that seems to be the ticket along with the previously mentioned folding stock. The gun stays at an MOA or slightly less. When I pick up whatever SCAR my one gripe is the cheese grater rails. Parker Mountain Machine solves this with rail elinination panels and a lower MLok rail. The KDG rails are nice too. Sorry for the spelling and typos. I don't type much because I suck at it! With all this said I was just a National Gaurd dude not some high end operator. My wife and I have shot competitively for a little of ten years now.


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