Trump is explaining exactly how wild and extreme his second term would be

[Alpha-17]

Yeah, in that same interview with Megyn Kelley she asked him if a man could become a woman. Trump's response was "Ummm....." Like literally, that's what he said. Then he went on to dance around the actual question and at the end said "My views are still the same". Which is what?????

Well, the Trump camp has defended Disney and Bud Light in the recent past, so that's hardly surprising.

Unlike DeSantis, he doesn't seem interested in picking a fight with Mickey Mouse.

You say that like picking a fight with The Mouse is a bad thing. Every dime spent fighting DeSantis is one dime closer to that horrid company going under, and that's a good thing.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

So was this an already existing by-law? Reads like it was.

Oh yeah, 'cause pledging to support whoever wins is such a bad thing. We all know if Orange Man doesn't get the nomination he will pull some kind of a third-party stunt and fvck us all. Like a petulant child.

Reportedly, it was quitely slipped into the bylaws during May as DeSantis' numbers began to tank.

Lee County Republican Party Chair, Michael Thompson, was asked if he thought the loyalty pledge was designed to go after Trump. Thompson said, "Of course." He nicknamed it the “Donald J. Trump rule.”

[ABNAK]

Reportedly, it was quitely slipped into the bylaws during May as DeSantis' numbers began to tank.

Lee County Republican Party Chair, Michael Thompson, was asked if he thought the loyalty pledge was designed to go after Trump. Thompson said, "Of course." He nicknamed it the “Donald J. Trump rule.”

Let me ask you this since you're a hard-core Trump fan: Since we are all expected to fall in line and vote for whoever gets the nomination to keep a Democrat out of the White House, wouldn't Trump be expected to follow suit? Or is he exempt? Special? An exception to that unwritten rule? While I don't think it needs to be a formal pledge or anything in writing, I expect Trump (if he somehow doesn't get the nomination) to support getting the Democrats out, whoever that may be. But you know as well as I do that the megalomaniac will NEVER do that if the situation presented itself.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Let me ask you this since you're a hard-core Trump fan: Since we are all expected to fall in line and vote for whoever gets the nomination to keep a Democrat out of the White House, wouldn't Trump be expected to follow suit? Or is he exempt? Special? An exception to that unwritten rule? While I don't think it needs to be a formal pledge or anything in writing, I expect Trump (if he somehow doesn't get the nomination) to support getting the Democrats out, whoever that may be. But you know as well as I do that the megalomaniac will NEVER do that if the situation presented itself.

A loyalty pledge among candidates is silly and would be used by the media as a cudgel to beat Trump over the head: You raised your hand and pledged to support candidate xyz but he says blah blah blah. Why would Trump be so foolish as to get himself bogged down in such nonsense during the primary season? Why pledge support to a guy whose sole purpose in life is to inhale a dozen donuts for breakfast and hate on Trump all day long? Why pledge support to candidates polling 40-50 points behind him? I can't think of many ways it would help Trump's candidacy, you? On the other hand, a conga-line of candidates polling in single-digits raising their hands like 3rd graders pledging to support each other... c'mon.

AFTER the primary, we'll see. I don't believe there's any chance of Trump going independent as a spoiler. At this point in time (things can always change this far out) the only way Trump isn’t the GOP nominee is if the Feds are successful in legally bringing him down. Hardly something to pledge an oath: If Biden puts me in prison I'll support the other guy... please.

The Florida GOP had a decision to make. They made the right one.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

DJT and the Repubes have no plan for winning in 2024. Anyone see his interview with Megyn Kelley? She asked him specifically and he basically said “it’s rigged, I can’t win. But vote for me harder, need voter turnout. But it’s rigged against me”. Which, he may be right but he has no plan to beat the system other than “vote for me”.

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At the risk of stating the obvious, states are responsible for conducting their elections. That means state party, elected representatives and voters. Trump can point to wrongdoing as he's done ad nauseam, and even challenge in court, however, it's ultimately the responsibility of each state.

As of Aug 2023, polling shows nearly 70% of GOP voters believe Biden's win was illegitimate. If that's the case, then the 70% should get off their dead ass (if they haven't already) to correct any shortcomings or potential for fraud in their state elections regardless of who the GOP nominee might ultimately be. Now it might be entertaining fodder for podcasters to present the issue in terms that Trump is responsible to ensure elections are free, fair and honest instead of their audience being responsible, but that's not the way it works.

Now for the good news... it's not overwhelming. Of the handful of states that gave the election to Biden, there were a total of only 40k votes. A mere 11k votes in Georgia separated Biden/Trump out of a total 5 million. The numbers we're talking about are rather small. So if it takes some closer scrutiny by election observers or whatever is needed... get out there and make a difference.

Fortunately, Tennesseans have their minds right by a large majority so I'll just sit here and criticize others. (grin)

[ChattanoogaPhil]

You say that like picking a fight with The Mouse is a bad thing. Every dime spent fighting DeSantis is one dime closer to that horrid company going under, and that's a good thing.

Looks like DeSantis would rather put it in the rear view mirror, move forward and forget about it. I don't blame him. Unfortunately, he chose to hang it around his is neck like a millstone. I think DeSantis' fight with Mickey Mouse, among other things, is reflected in his favorability ratings among Independents falling off a cliff. He needs to find a way to connect with America. Hope he does, particularly if Trump's legal woes overwhelm him. I don't want to see a Haley presidency.

Aug 15

exceprts from DeSantis' MSNBC interview.

“They’re [Disney] suing the state of Florida. They’re going to lose that lawsuit. . . . . So what I would say is, drop the lawsuit,” he said, adding that Florida is a “great place to do business.”

“So all we want to do is treat everybody the same, and let’s move forward. I’m totally fine with that."

[ABNAK]

Looks like DeSantis would rather put it in the rear view mirror, move forward and forget about it. I don't blame him. Unfortunately, he chose to hang it around his is neck like a millstone. I think DeSantis' fight with Mickey Mouse, among other things, is reflected in his favorability ratings among Independents falling off a cliff. He needs to find a way to connect with America. Hope he does, particularly if Trump's legal woes overwhelm him. I don't want to see a Haley presidency.

Aug 15

exceprts from DeSantis' MSNBC interview.

“They’re [Disney] suing the state of Florida. They’re going to lose that lawsuit. . . . . So what I would say is, drop the lawsuit,” he said, adding that Florida is a “great place to do business.”

“So all we want to do is treat everybody the same, and let’s move forward. I’m totally fine with that."

I will only vote for DeSantis (first choice) or VERY reluctantly for Trump in the general. I absolutely refuse to vote for Haley, Pence, Fat Boy, and likely even Vivek (don't trust him). I will skip the POTUS lever entirely if any of them are the R choice, and I will blame people voting in the primaries for giving us that choice and forcing my hand. Don't care.

I hope you weren't inferring that DeSantis caved on the Disney thing, which maybe he did; Trump is no better, hence the reference earlier to his "Ummm....." response to Megan Kelley's question about a man becoming a woman.

[Artos]

I don't know why trump hoo-haw'd that question...he already has stated more than once there are only two genders, along with everything woke turns to crap??

Weird he got spooked on it.

https://twitter.com/robertdunlap947/...39879118090586

[ABNAK]

I don't know why trump hoo-haw'd that question...he already has stated more than once there are only two genders, along with everything woke turns to crap??

Weird he got spooked on it.

https://twitter.com/robertdunlap947/...39879118090586

Sign of the times I guess. God I'd NEVER be elected for even dogcatcher with my unyielding views!

[glocktogo]

So was this an already existing by-law? Reads like it was.

Oh yeah, 'cause pledging to support whoever wins is such a bad thing. We all know if Orange Man doesn't get the nomination he will pull some kind of a third-party stunt and fvck us all. Like a petulant child.

Prove it.

I will only vote for DeSantis (first choice) or VERY reluctantly for Trump in the general. I absolutely refuse to vote for Haley, Pence, Fat Boy, and likely even Vivek (don't trust him). I will skip the POTUS lever entirely if any of them are the R choice, and I will blame people voting in the primaries for giving us that choice and forcing my hand. Don't care.

I hope you weren't inferring that DeSantis caved on the Disney thing, which maybe he did; Trump is no better, hence the reference earlier to his "Ummm....." response to Megan Kelley's question about a man becoming a woman.

Fortunately for the rest of us, your vote doesn't matter anyway. Your state will go red just fine without you!