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    Mid-length gas system in the cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTGERS95 View Post
    middies blow in the cold and will choke in sub freezing temps unless you open them up negating the the 'supposed benefit' of the middy. I say supposed because Crane testing was immaterial. Dissy has the rifle length for longer sight picture before dots were a thing. Has nothing to do with someone needing long arms
    Trying to figure out the basis of this statement I found https://partner-mco-archive.s3.amazo...1527866983.pdf which I suppose is or is related to the Crane testing that was dismissed as "immaterial." Why is it so? It shows less malfunctions with a mid-length gas system than with a carbine-length gas system at low temperatures. At the same time a reduced cyclic rate was observed. Are there conflicting reports?

    - 960 rounds at -60F for Reliability at Low Temp

    -For carbine-length weapons, 27 out of 65 malfunctions occurred during low temperature testing. For
    mid-length weapons, 16 out of 30 malfunctions occurred during low temperature testing. For low
    temperature testing, carbine-length weapons had 333.3 mean rounds between failures (MRBF) compared
    to 836.1 MRBF for ambient temperature testing and mid-length weapons had 562.5 MRBF compared to
    1993.8 MRBF for ambient temperature testing. Approximately half of the total malfunctions recorded for
    both carbine-length and mid-length weapons occurred during low temperature testing, so the relative rate
    of malfunctions between carbine-length and mid-length remained similar to that of ambient temperature
    testing.

    - Averaged overall bolt speeds and differences in bolt speeds are presented in Table. The P-Values of
    bolt speed results for both suppressed and unsuppressed fire are less than 0.05, so there is a statistically
    significant difference between the two gas systems. Bolt speed is uniformly lower for mid-length gas
    systems when compared to carbine-length gas systems. Mid length bolt speed was 2.13 fps, or 12.4%,
    lower than carbine-length for suppressed fire and 3.23 fps, or 22.6%, lower for unsuppressed fire.
    Last edited by Disciple; 09-23-23 at 19:21.

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