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    Russia Ukraine War thread (strict rules)

    this is the new Ukrainian thread.This is where we will put all information regarding the Ukrainian war…see new rules in third post…management
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    Are we getting it back? There are new developments happening like ATACMS gifting a Russian helo base with several hundred APAM bomblets, Ukraine is "leasing" some air defense systems and their pilots are already flying F-16's.

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    #Ukraine: Well, something extraordinary happened- the remains of M39 missiles (Made in 1996 and 1997) of the MGM-140A ATACMS Block I system used by Ukrainian forces against Berdyansk AB.

    This variant has a range of ~165km, inertial guidance, and carries 950 M74 submunitions.

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    in the last week...
    i have seen far more air defense in ukraine (4 aircraft shot down in a week). something has changed there...

    reports that F16 pilots are accelerating training and they are already in aircraft. and the pilots ay be cleared sooner then thought. from reports

    and that finally ATACMs are in ukraine...

    so my question (and i dont want crazy conspiracy theories)... but something has changed to change the thinking in DC... what?
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    What? English please.

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    OK I think this is a good idea but the rules are going to be a mega strict. Let’s all police each other’s snark. If you think I am being a shithead (which I can be), shoot me a message. I will not ban you or sanction you for keeping me honest. On the other hand, anybody coming in here calling people names is probably gonna get banned. I will say you can also get banned for lying or posting blatant misinformation. By this I do not mean posting Russian or western links I mean posting stuff that you know is bullshit or is not what it purports to be.

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    Yep, definitely looks like Ukraine smoked a bunch of KA-52’s using ATACMS.

    Ukraine Fires ATACMS Missiles at Russian Forces for the First Time
    U.S. missiles were secretly deployed to Ukraine in recent days

    https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukr...-time-3bebcdb1
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    I suspect that previously promised equipment has made it to theatre and the Ukrainian crews have been trained on it or mastered the equipment. However, if you are asking if the US's previous request that the Ukrainians not use US weapons in Russian territory has been rescinded, I haven't seen any official statement or report to that effect. I suspect that the recent hostilities in Israel and political pressure at home might force the US to change policy in Ukraine to try and resolve that situation quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd228 View Post
    I suspect that previously promised equipment has made it to theatre and the Ukrainian crews have been trained on it or mastered the equipment. However, if you are asking if the US's previous request that the Ukrainians not use US weapons in Russian territory has been rescinded, I haven't seen any official statement or report to that effect. I suspect that the recent hostilities in Israel and political pressure at home might force the US to change policy in Ukraine to try and resolve that situation quickly.

    Maybe, or maybe they’re being told by us what to target with these new longer range toys.



    US Air Force Global Hawk Drones Hunt Russian Targets Over Crimea From Black Sea

    https://warriormaven.com/russia-ukra...from-black-sea

    US Air Force RQ-4 Global Hawk drones and other NATO surveillance assets have been circling within surveillance range of the Crimean Peninsula and other parts of Southern Ukraine from the Black Sea as a way to find, transmit or “light up” targets of great significance for Ukrainian forces to attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tn1911 View Post
    Maybe, or maybe they’re being told by us what to target with these new longer range toys.



    US Air Force Global Hawk Drones Hunt Russian Targets Over Crimea From Black Sea

    https://warriormaven.com/russia-ukra...from-black-sea
    I don't think there is a maybe about the US aiding the Ukrainians with intel/targeting, Ukraine offered us a vote in their targeting process back in 2022. I'm fairly certain we did planning with them back when JMTG-U was a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd228 View Post
    I suspect that the recent hostilities in Israel and political pressure at home might force the US to change policy in Ukraine to try and resolve that situation quickly.
    Which is what we should have been doing the entire time. I really think the plan was to draw out the fighting until next year, then end it and use it as an example of Biden's leadership. Now that we're slipping into the next big one, the powers that be have realized that they can't afford to wait. Hopefully it's not too little, too late.
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    Five Russian Attack Jets in Ten Days: Something Is Knocking Down Kremlin Jets, a Lot


    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/22962
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    GeoConfirmed UKR.

    Footage by
    @bradyafr
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    @COUPSURE
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    @Tatarigami_UA
    confirms at least 21 (!) destroyed/damaged ���� helicopters after the first use of ATACMS delivered by US. This is the probably the biggest blow to the Russian Air Force since the beginning of the war.
    https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/sta...mw3SpPlFQ&s=19

    Damn!!!

    If true that’s about 10% of the known numbers of KA-52’s russia has still in service. Ukraine has shot down between 30 and 40 of them since the start of the war.

    It was estimated that Russia had around 250 of these at the start of this shit show.
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