Russia Ukraine War thread (strict rules)

**mack7.62** · 10-17-23, 10:15

this is the new Ukrainian thread.This is where we will put all information regarding the Ukrainian war…see new rules in third post…management
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Are we getting it back? There are new developments happening like ATACMS gifting a Russian helo base with several hundred APAM bomblets, Ukraine is "leasing" some air defense systems and their pilots are already flying F-16's.

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#Ukraine: Well, something extraordinary happened- the remains of M39 missiles (Made in 1996 and 1997) of the MGM-140A ATACMS Block I system used by Ukrainian forces against Berdyansk AB.

This variant has a range of ~165km, inertial guidance, and carries 950 M74 submunitions.

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david D.
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in the last week...
i have seen far more air defense in ukraine (4 aircraft shot down in a week). something has changed there...

reports that F16 pilots are accelerating training and they are already in aircraft. and the pilots ay be cleared sooner then thought. from reports

and that finally ATACMs are in ukraine...

so my question (and i dont want crazy conspiracy theories)... but something has changed to change the thinking in DC... what?

**ffhounddog** · 10-17-23, 11:18

What? English please.

**The Dumb Gun Collector** · 10-17-23, 12:08

OK I think this is a good idea but the rules are going to be a mega strict. Let’s all police each other’s snark. If you think I am being a shithead (which I can be), shoot me a message. I will not ban you or sanction you for keeping me honest. On the other hand, anybody coming in here calling people names is probably gonna get banned. I will say you can also get banned for lying or posting blatant misinformation. By this I do not mean posting Russian or western links I mean posting stuff that you know is bullshit or is not what it purports to be.

This is your only warning. If you don’t like it don’t participate in this thread.

**tn1911** · 10-17-23, 13:20

Yep, definitely looks like Ukraine smoked a bunch of KA-52’s using ATACMS.

Ukraine Fires ATACMS Missiles at Russian Forces for the First Time
U.S. missiles were secretly deployed to Ukraine in recent days

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukr...-time-3bebcdb1

**cd228** · 10-17-23, 13:43

I suspect that previously promised equipment has made it to theatre and the Ukrainian crews have been trained on it or mastered the equipment. However, if you are asking if the US's previous request that the Ukrainians not use US weapons in Russian territory has been rescinded, I haven't seen any official statement or report to that effect. I suspect that the recent hostilities in Israel and political pressure at home might force the US to change policy in Ukraine to try and resolve that situation quickly.

**tn1911** · 10-17-23, 15:42

Originally Posted by cd228

I suspect that previously promised equipment has made it to theatre and the Ukrainian crews have been trained on it or mastered the equipment. However, if you are asking if the US's previous request that the Ukrainians not use US weapons in Russian territory has been rescinded, I haven't seen any official statement or report to that effect. I suspect that the recent hostilities in Israel and political pressure at home might force the US to change policy in Ukraine to try and resolve that situation quickly.

Maybe, or maybe they’re being told by us what to target with these new longer range toys.

US Air Force Global Hawk Drones Hunt Russian Targets Over Crimea From Black Sea

https://warriormaven.com/russia-ukra...from-black-sea

US Air Force RQ-4 Global Hawk drones and other NATO surveillance assets have been circling within surveillance range of the Crimean Peninsula and other parts of Southern Ukraine from the Black Sea as a way to find, transmit or “light up” targets of great significance for Ukrainian forces to attack.

**Coal Dragger** · 10-22-23, 03:42

Had a conversation with a friend of mine that works for General Dynamics teaching the Abrams upgrades to the Army, evidently one of the Ukrainian crews a teaching team from GD trained managed to kick the shit out of a couple of T-90’s single handed with their new to them Abrams. 2500M engagement range is what he was hearing.

**Lacos** · 10-23-23, 18:13

No official statement from the Kremlin

“The insider group said Putin was found lying on the floor of his bedroom next to overturned food and drinks about 9.05pm on Sunday.

His security personnel then stormed the room when they heard noises and the sound of the president hitting the floor.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-new...e53bec6ae8f3d8

**hotrodder636** · 10-23-23, 18:28

I have been reading quite a bit lately that the "Putin" we have seen is his double and he that the OG Putin is knocking on death's door. I think cancer is what I had read was his real ailment.