CLEO Notification

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I thought that CLEO notification happened by the ATF, but in looking over my brace form I saw in section 10 about the applicant having to send a form to the CLEO? Do I have to send the Sheriff a hard copy???

[Vgex2]

With regular F1s, when I e-filed my form one paperwork, three of the pages were CLEO pages. You can print them off drop them in the mail. The CLEO only has to be notified of your intent to manufacture an SBR. That's what I understand.

[kerplode]

Yeah, you're supposed to send them copies of the completed form(s)...Technically, you're supposed to send them the forms prior to the completion of the application.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/who-...r-transfer-nfa

[kerplode]

With regular F1s, when I e-filed my form one paperwork, three of the pages were CLEO pages. You can print them off drop them in the mail. The CLEO only has to be notified of your intent to manufacture an SBR. That's what I understand.

Correct...After 41F, the CLEO approval was removed and replaced with CLEO notification.

So the CLEO can't deny you just because they think guns are icky. The notification is so that if they have some info regarding your scumbaggedness that the feds may not know, they can kick that up to the NFA branch for review while the application is in process. I suspect most CLEOs don't even look at these things, though...

[SteyrAUG]

Confirming above.

Approval no longer required, simply a matter of notification.

[Bret]

Yeah, you're supposed to send them copies of the completed form(s)...Technically, you're supposed to send them the forms prior to the completion of the application.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/who-...r-transfer-nfa

I think that link's outdated because it doesn't apply to e-filing. You don't get the completed form until you submit, so how can you print the CLEO copy before receiving the submitted copy via email?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I’m confused because the e-form is often just a pdf of that you fill in- and they have all kinds of references to the hard copy pathway. Even the form submission has a pdf attached that talks about having to send in the fingerprint cards, even though you submitted electronic fingerprints.
What got me was the copy of the eform you send in comes back with “ATF Copy” at the bottom in red with gray ‘Submitted’ across the pages- that’s for the “ATF Copy” and for the “CLEO Copy”- which has “Submitted” across it.

Considering the e-filing disconnect the written document directions, and the form you submit, has “Submitted” all over it, including the CLEO pages, why wouldn’t you think that they had been electronically submitted? You typed in the address of the CLEO. So it should be “Eform*” with an asterisk.

[kerplode]

I think that link's outdated because it doesn't apply to e-filing. You don't get the completed form until you submit, so how can you print the CLEO copy before receiving the submitted copy via email?

For eForms, you submit to ATF, print it out, and send it to the CLEO.

By "completion of the application" I mean receipt of approval or denial, not submission.

The copy with the "submitted" watermark is the one you send in...

Here's another reference:
https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/bl...k-to-your-cleo

[kerplode]

Some services, Silencer Shop for example, will handle the CLEO notification for you. Ultimately, though, it's your responsibility. I can find no direct evidence that ATF does anything related to CLEO despite them requesting the info on the form.

[joedirt199]

Yeah my Sheriff's where I work says they don't know why they get them or what to do with them. I think they get shredded after they get a stack of them.