Scope level recommendations

[JediGuy]

Badger makes an optic leveling stand that I use in combination with bubbles. I have the Arisaka self leveler kit but haven’t actually used it.

[Adrenaline_6]

Don't sweat it. Buy an Angle Cube. I originally bought it to put exact edge angles on my knives for sharpening.

Screw bubbles and plumb bobs
The great thing is, you don't even have to level your gun.
Just eyeball it.
Tighten it down in your vise.
Zero the Angle Cube on your rail
Then keep the same zero when putting the Angle Cube on your scope and torqueing the rings down
Accurate to 0.01 degrees
Easy peasy

https://www.amazon.com/iGaging-35-22...st_sto_dp&th=1

[HKGuns]

Don't sweat it. Buy an Angle Cube. I originally bought it to put exact edge angles on my knives for sharpening.

Screw bubbles and plumb bobs
The great thing is, you don't even have to level your gun.
Just eyeball it.
Tighten it down in your vise.
Zero the Angle Cube on your rail
Then keep the same zero when putting the Angle Cube on your scope and torqueing the rings down
Accurate to 0.01 degrees
Easy peasy

https://www.amazon.com/iGaging-35-22...st_sto_dp&th=1

I'm always looking for new / better ideas. Can you put more of the process you use into words? Not following what you are actually doing or how you are using this device.

[Adrenaline_6]

I'm always looking for new / better ideas. Can you put more of the process you use into words? Not following what you are actually doing or how you are using this device.

The Angle Cube will zero itself to whatever flat surface you lay it on

So you just tighten your gun into your favorite vise. It doesn't have to be perfectly level, the more important aspect is that it doesn't allow the gun to move.

You put the Angle Cube on the receiver rail or scope rail (whatever flat surface you are zeroing the scope to)and hit the zero button. The Angle Cube will now read 0.00 degrees and will be zeroed to your gun position in the vise.

Mount the scope and put the Angle Cube on the turret. Tighten the rings down with the Angle Cube reading 0.00 (as close as you can get it to 0.00 anyway).

Done.

[Exiledviking]

The Angle Cube will zero itself to whatever flat surface you lay it on

So you just tighten your gun into your favorite vise. It doesn't have to be perfectly level, the more important aspect is that it doesn't allow the gun to move.

You put the Angle Cube on the receiver rail or scope rail (whatever flat surface you are zeroing the scope to)and hit the zero button. The Angle Cube will now read 0.00 degrees and will be zeroed to your gun position in the vise.

Mount the scope and put the Angle Cube on the turret. Tighten the rings down with the Angle Cube reading 0.00 (as close as you can get it to 0.00 anyway).

Done.

Thank you. Just ordered one. I have the Arisaka leveler, but unless your mount has a nice flat spot under the turrets it becomes a little bit of a challenge. Even then it could be slightly off. I'm looking forward to trying out your technique as I need to mount a Vortex Razor in a Badger 1.70 mount. And I'm curious to see how close to true the scopes I already have mounted are to the receiver.

[HKGuns]

The Angle Cube will zero itself to whatever flat surface you lay it on

So you just tighten your gun into your favorite vise. It doesn't have to be perfectly level, the more important aspect is that it doesn't allow the gun to move.

You put the Angle Cube on the receiver rail or scope rail (whatever flat surface you are zeroing the scope to)and hit the zero button. The Angle Cube will now read 0.00 degrees and will be zeroed to your gun position in the vise.

Mount the scope and put the Angle Cube on the turret. Tighten the rings down with the Angle Cube reading 0.00 (as close as you can get it to 0.00 anyway).

Done.

Thanks man. I'm gonna pick one up as well and try it out. Sounds a lot more simple and potentially easier than my current method for chump change.

[Adrenaline_6]

Thanks man. I'm gonna pick one up as well and try it out. Sounds a lot more simple and potentially easier than my current method for chump change.

Not a problem. I like simple too.

You don't even need the new backlit usb model. The older one works just fine.

https://www.amazon.com/iGaging-Angle...02LL0BIC&psc=1

[T2C]

The plumb bob was mentioned by a few. I carry a plumb bob in my range gear and use it when posting targets at the range. Having the target plumb, or level if you wish, eliminates one source of error when verifying scope tracking.

I've leveled the top scope turret with the rail and still had to make adjustments when verifying scope tracking at the range. If you never shoot beyond 300 yards it's not critical, but you will see tracking errors when making elevation adjustments from a 100-yard zero to a 300-yard target engagement.

[Exiledviking]

The plumb bob was mentioned by a few. I carry a plumb bob in my range gear and use it when posting targets at the range. Having the target plumb, or level if you wish, eliminates one source of error when verifying scope tracking.

I've leveled the top scope turret with the rail and still had to make adjustments when verifying scope tracking at the range. If you never shoot beyond 300 yards it's not critical, but you will see tracking errors when making elevation adjustments from a 100-yard zero to a 300-yard target engagement.

How do you ensure that the rifle is perfectly level at the range? Do you have a bubble mounted to it? I'm trying to learn more about this.

[Adrenaline_6]

The plumb bob was mentioned by a few. I carry a plumb bob in my range gear and use it when posting targets at the range. Having the target plumb, or level if you wish, eliminates one source of error when verifying scope tracking.

I've leveled the top scope turret with the rail and still had to make adjustments when verifying scope tracking at the range. If you never shoot beyond 300 yards it's not critical, but you will see tracking errors when making elevation adjustments from a 100-yard zero to a 300-yard target engagement.

From a physics standpoint this doesn't make sense.

If:
1. If the scope reticle is perfectly aligned with the scope turret like it supposed to be (reputable manufacturers)
2. the rail/receiver in relation to the barrel is manufactured like it supposed to be
3. The scope reticle tracks true like it supposed to
4. The rifle is shot level like it supposed to be

then everything is in line and should track like a perfect level plumb line.

Which leaves only a few possibilities:

1. The receiver was not lined up perfectly with the scope turret due to manufacturing or installation error
2. The reticle was not in line with the turret (which would cause other problems when making adjustments)
3. The rifle was not level when being shot

I'm not doubting your real life experience at that time, it just doesn't make physical sense.