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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    That oily stuff on your gun from the factory isn't lube. It's a protectant and it needs to be cleaned OFF and the gun then lubed.
    Where are you seeing this information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCB View Post
    Where are you seeing this information?
    Does the operating manual say "strip and clean your firearm"?

    How do you imagine they keep standing inventory of firearms in warehouses, potentially for years, without maintenance?
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Does the operating manual say "strip and clean your firearm"?

    How do you imagine they keep standing inventory of firearms in warehouses, potentially for years, without maintenance?
    I知 trying to discern where you learned what HK coats their firearms with post assembly, and how you obtained that information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCB View Post
    I’m trying to discern where you learned what HK coats their firearms with post assembly, and how you obtained that information.
    It is most likely some version of cosmoline....all my new HKs came with some type of this on the internals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    On this stuff I tend to defer to people like Larry Vickers, who really know what a firearm can and cannot do both from a design and real world application understanding.

    I think MAC started out honest and sincere but once you put your opinion of the most popular firearms up, you start to run out of content. You also struggle to not have a standard evaluation platform because YT people have short attention spans. They really want to see you dunk a gun in a bucket of gasoline, light it on fire and throw it in the ocean, then load and shoot it to declare "this gun can go anywhere seals can go."

    I really wish I had a higher tolerance for stupid people, I'd have an amazing YT channel.

    What is the best "end of the world ammo"?

    We submerged these rounds in a bathtub over night and they all fired the next day 100% without failure. This is the ONLY survivalist ammo we recommend.

    Never mind that NSW swims with loaded mags all the damn time and most ammo is waterproof.
    I take these "tests" with a grain of salt. Seriously, if one expects that one's pistol might fall out of the holster into the mud please get a L2 retention holster at least. There's a reason the MIL uses a flap holster. I want the most reliable pistol I can get but I also expect to take care of it as well. I saw the MAC test of the USP and to my satisfaction it did pass, which is cool since I have a USP too. I also have a Beretta 92 and a Colt 1911 as well as several revolvers. I know these pistols are unlikely to pass any such tests but used responsibly they are reliable. All of the unreliable Glocks, 1911's, etc., that I have seen in the various competitions I've attended were "tuned" versions using weak ammo. I went on such a journey with my Colt .38 super. I ended up with a pistol that just barely worked and suffered a case head detonation. My lesson; use full power springs capable of cycling through the gunk and use full power ammo capable of cycling those springs. I use a retention holster exclusively, even during rather sedate IDPA competitions. I've seen guys ejected for losing their pistols while moving too many times.
    I still enjoy the extreme "tests" for their entertainment value and there are some more realistic tests out there.

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    I installed the three LEM CDA 4.1 parts and the trigger sits back a good distance right inside the trigger trough. Almost like it痴 meant to be. I also went ahead and installed the match flat sear spring and Mepro sights. The trigger still breaks right above 6 1/4 pounds and is smooth so I知 happy. I haven稚 shot a lot of rounds so I知 sure it will lighten more.





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    Quote Originally Posted by 1986s4 View Post
    I take these "tests" with a grain of salt. Seriously, if one expects that one's pistol might fall out of the holster into the mud please get a L2 retention holster at least. There's a reason the MIL uses a flap holster. I want the most reliable pistol I can get but I also expect to take care of it as well. I saw the MAC test of the USP and to my satisfaction it did pass, which is cool since I have a USP too. I also have a Beretta 92 and a Colt 1911 as well as several revolvers. I know these pistols are unlikely to pass any such tests but used responsibly they are reliable. All of the unreliable Glocks, 1911's, etc., that I have seen in the various competitions I've attended were "tuned" versions using weak ammo. I went on such a journey with my Colt .38 super. I ended up with a pistol that just barely worked and suffered a case head detonation. My lesson; use full power springs capable of cycling through the gunk and use full power ammo capable of cycling those springs. I use a retention holster exclusively, even during rather sedate IDPA competitions. I've seen guys ejected for losing their pistols while moving too many times.
    I still enjoy the extreme "tests" for their entertainment value and there are some more realistic tests out there.
    Pretty sure I can't find an argument in any of that. I have never experienced a quality (and I don't mean expensive, I mean well made) handgun failure that I can remember. And the vast majority of failures I've seen ultimately came from crappy cheapo mags, amazingly shitty ammo (and I mean using stuff 20 years old from countries you can't find on a map) and my all time favorite aftermarket parts or excessive customizing.

    I've seen guys take a perfectly fine 1911 series 70 and "tune" it to the point where it will only feed and cycle their hand loads, nothing else. I understand when experts create a race gun and when Jerry does it I do believe it's done so the gun can keep up with Jerry, but when ordinary shooters build a race gun when they should be building fundamentals, it usually leads to failures on many levels. It's always funny to me when they blame the gun.

    Watching guys who have only been shooting 2 years talk about split times, best times is a lot like listening to the guys at the gym talk about how they'd have fought whoever won the UFC last month differently and what they'd have done to be the winner.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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