Palmetto State Armory AR’s - I’m impressed

[Patrin]

A few weeks ago I get sent the Black Friday emails from PSA. Complete lowers for 129.99 and M4 uppers for 229.99. I didn’t need anything, but a buddy of mine wanting to get into an AR, on a small budget, it seemed like just the ticket.

He orders both and with shipping + 20$ transfer is into it for a hair over 400$.

I went out yesterday to help him zero it and look it over for anything out of place, being that it was so cheap….well…. it was perfect.

-Receiver extension was staked
-H buffer
-Bolt Carrier extension was staked and done so very well
-Upper/lower fit was tight
-FSB pins were flush, FSB was straight as an arrow with receiver
-158 bolt
-Clean Mil spec trigger


Has a 4150 nitride barrel that was accurate and the gun ran 200 rounds of WIN M193 that ejected @ 4 o’clock in neat little piles. Gun was over gassed, but not by very much. Tan furniture and B5 stock.

PSA has the ‘Sabre’ line, the more ‘Mil-Spec’ product I guess, but I think one would be hard pressed to find a better deal to quality for what he got and is thrilled with the purchase.

So hats off to PSA, they did it right.

[BuzzinSATX]

I have complete uppers/lowers from BCM, SOLGW, and my main HD gun is an old Daniel Defense DDV2, but I shoot the piss out of my cheap PSA and it’s never failed me yet.

I think they are a decent choice if a person is on a tight budget.


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[HKGuns]

[ViniVidivici]

We have 2 PSA uppers, and a BCG and some small lower parts in another gun, they're fine.

Gun I shot today was a PSA upper, I was hitting steel with it just fine, as usual.

How many clicks over did it take to zero your buddy's gun, windage-wise? PSA is notorious for canted FSBs.

One of our 2 uppers was like that. Still zeroed, but something like 21 clicks over, I think. ( I fixed it the fun way...ground it down into just a gas block, put a rail and MI front sight on it. Fun project and it's better in every way, shoots tighter too, being free-floated.)

Other was fine, zeroed within 5 clicks L.

[SteyrAUG]

I think the minimum AR I would own for anything serious would be a M&P. And even there I'm taking some chances.

Nothing wrong with PSA, if it's just a hobby gun.

Of course there are people who are spending over $2k on seriously substandard crap grade rifles so hard to say who is more wrong.

[AndyLate]

I think the minimum AR I would own for anything serious would be a M&P. And even there I'm taking some chances.

Nothing wrong with PSA, if it's just a hobby gun.

Of course there are people who are spending over $2k on seriously substandard crap grade rifles so hard to say who is more wrong.

I think Steyr is spot on, nothing wrong with them as a hobby gun.

[Stickman]

I think Steyr is spot on, nothing wrong with them as a hobby gun.

Agreed, and we have seen time and time again where PSA has pumped out an amazing product for shooters at a great price. However, to NOT view PSA in their entirety with their abysmal QC is borderline criminal.

I don't think anyone here would say PSA should outfit a large department with AR15s. Not with the quality and problems that cling to their name. At some point it would be nice to see things change.

[26 Inf]

I don't think anyone here would say PSA should outfit a large department with AR15s. Not with the quality and problems that cling to their name. At some point it would be nice to see things change.

As often as I must have come across as a PSA fanboi, I agree. I tend to look at things from the perspective that someone who posts regularly or lurks on this board ought to know how to troubleshoot and vet a rifle. That definitely isn't the average LEO, though.

I do think that PSA's QC/basic assembly has been improving and perhaps one day they'll be to that point. If they can do that and maintain their competitive pricing that will be good for a lot of enthusiasts.

[AndyLate]

Agreed, and we have seen time and time again where PSA has pumped out an amazing product for shooters at a great price. However, to NOT view PSA in their entirety with their abysmal QC is borderline criminal.

I don't think anyone here would say PSA should outfit a large department with AR15s. Not with the quality and problems that cling to their name. At some point it would be nice to see things change.

Yep, someone that knows a little about ARs can determine how to fix small problems and when to return to PSA for a warranty repair. I have a couple of PSA Freedom ARs because the kits were dirt cheap. They are "good enough" range/loaner guns, partly because I replaced components and took some care when I assembled the kits. Hobby guns.

It would be a nightmare to prepare even 50 PSA carbines for a department and just as much a nightmare for a private owner who is not familiar with the platform.

Andy

[bamashooter]

A few weeks ago I get sent the Black Friday emails from PSA. Complete lowers for 129.99 and M4 uppers for 229.99. I didn’t need anything, but a buddy of mine wanting to get into an AR, on a small budget, it seemed like just the ticket.

He orders both and with shipping + 20$ transfer is into it for a hair over 400$.

I went out yesterday to help him zero it and look it over for anything out of place, being that it was so cheap….well…. it was perfect.

-Receiver extension was staked
-H buffer
-Bolt Carrier extension was staked and done so very well
-Upper/lower fit was tight
-FSB pins were flush, FSB was straight as an arrow with receiver
-158 bolt
-Clean Mil spec trigger


Has a 4150 nitride barrel that was accurate and the gun ran 200 rounds of WIN M193 that ejected @ 4 o’clock in neat little piles. Gun was over gassed, but not by very much. Tan furniture and B5 stock.

PSA has the ‘Sabre’ line, the more ‘Mil-Spec’ product I guess, but I think one would be hard pressed to find a better deal to quality for what he got and is thrilled with the purchase.

So hats off to PSA, they did it right.

Hate to be you. The PSA is not "combat-tested/proven" (sure it is along with DPMS). Go to North-central Africa in your spare time. "Tier-1" operators have not blessed it. That dead guy likely spoke ugly of it. Heaven forbid, it might even have one of those mim things in it. And, and, and .............