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Adrenaline_6
That's the whole thing though. One "super ingredient" means nothing in the grand scheme of things. What was accomplished more than 50 years ago that caused the whole Abiogenesis theory to boom was actually nothing at all. They made more complex organic molecules that would be necessary for Abiogenesis from simpler organic precursors. That's it. Just building blocks. Nothing more has been accomplished since then. There are so many specific processes and precise temperature requirements. That experiment is still so far away from actual life it isn't funny.
There is chicken or the egg problem also. First it was theorized that cells came first then enzymes, then genes. Now we understand that Genes require enzymes to function, but you need genes to produce enzymes. Along with a whole bunch of other requirements like ribosomes, and a crapload of other proteins to say the least.
In other words, it isn't a specific condition and poof there is life. No there is a complex support structure to support it that would need to be there before but because enzymes are so specific, the enzyme needs to be created by the genes that require the support. If you want a crazy number to look at, think of the odds that would put all these specific substances, some specifically designed for a specific purpose to be in place and appear at the same time.
You are playing multiple lotteries that need to be won in a specific order and not lose any of them or you start over.
ALL THAT and then some.
Problem is most of us learn biology and evolution from the 6th to 8th grade so we have a middle school understanding of the concept that is never really increased because most of us are not biologists. But when you advance your understanding of the subject, you really just get additional questions and problems with fewer and fewer answers unless you are willing to be blindly dogmatic about concepts and accept that we can't explain it but it must have happened like that.
And that seems to be true across almost all of the sciences, which is our best ability to answer all these questions. But it's hard for most people to study something that is the "path to the answer" when it still doesn't completely get you to the actual answer. In some ways we are making amazing discoveries and figuring out complex problems, but the solution to the really simple questions still seem to elude us.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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