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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzman View Post
    These photos don't prove to me that the sling mount is defective. A photo showing the screws and backing nuts might be helpful. I've needed to loosen the screws quite a bit before the mounts would slide into position.
    These things are hard to figure out online without the parts in front of you, but I'd pull the fasteners completely out and see if the item would slide into position. Maybe Cane55 has already tried this.
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    Ya, I was thinking the same thing.

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    I've never messed with Keymod but know I have had to do the same on some MLOK stuff. Assuming its the same principle.

    Either way, poor CS from any company sucks. Whether its on a $17 part or a $1500 rifle. But especially on 1 $17 part when the easiest, most cost effective and sure way to please the client is to just send them another one to try out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch110 View Post
    No, he actually went to great lengths to explain that while he has a relationship with BCM he does NOT in fact work for them.


    If I list the companies we shoot pics for, I'm bragging. If I mention the industry connections, I'm bragging. If I mention publications, I'm bragging. If I mention military and/ or police careers, I'm showing off. If I give examples, I'm not fair. If I list qualifications I'm back to bragging. If I talk about correct nomenclature or for clarifications to help people, I'm a bad person and up to something. The list goes on and on. Heaven forbid I don't do one of those things, then I'm hiding the truth and people have suddenly discovered a secret.

    I would hope I've helped people, but honestly there are times where its just not going to work for some individuals.
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    I also shoot and write for various publications. Let me know if you know cool secrets or have toys worthy of an article...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    If I list the companies we shoot pics for, I'm bragging. If I mention the industry connections, I'm bragging. If I mention publications, I'm bragging. If I mention military and/ or police careers, I'm showing off. If I give examples, I'm not fair. If I list qualifications I'm back to bragging. If I talk about correct nomenclature or for clarifications to help people, I'm a bad person and up to something. The list goes on and on. Heaven forbid I don't do one of those things, then I'm hiding the truth and people have suddenly discovered a secret.

    I would hope I've helped people, but honestly there are times where its just not going to work for some individuals.
    I was just discussing this reality with a co worker earlier. In the early days of internet forums, they would attract SME's who would gladly lend their expertise to those who asked. Saw this on motorcycle racing forums, martial arts forums, gun forums etc etc. Then, everyone became an expert. I recall an argument over riding technique once, between a lowly club level racer and the guy who was leading the points in AMA Superbike at the time. It was comical. After awhile the SME's just got tired of trying to educate those who think they know better and moved on. Back when I was an instructor on the race track my favorite retort from a student after being given a piece of instruction was "Well, I read on the internet....."

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    Show us a picture of it not fitting the KMR rail then show us a picture of the QD mount above the rail. (Side view) Verify that you are not trying to install it over the gas block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH41 View Post
    Show us a picture of it not fitting the KMR rail then show us a picture of the QD mount above the rail. (Side view) Verify that you are not trying to install it over the gas block.
    Sure does look like it is right next to the gas block. One of downsides to KM and ML for me on middies compared to Pic, my support hand wants to be where the gas block is located and has forced me to come up creative solutions for placing scales, support controls, light and switch mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    If I list the companies we shoot pics for, I'm bragging. If I mention the industry connections, I'm bragging. If I mention publications, I'm bragging. If I mention military and/ or police careers, I'm showing off. If I give examples, I'm not fair. If I list qualifications I'm back to bragging. If I talk about correct nomenclature or for clarifications to help people, I'm a bad person and up to something. The list goes on and on. Heaven forbid I don't do one of those things, then I'm hiding the truth and people have suddenly discovered a secret.

    I would hope I've helped people, but honestly there are times where its just not going to work for some individuals.
    Catch-22. Some people here are kinda like something I've observed in other places, Jesus Himself could personally descend from Heaven to craft each of them a rifle uniquely perfected to their personal needs and they'd bitch about him robbing them of the fun of complaint. Hang in there, man.

    And please know that you HAVE helped, every so often I find myself asking "What Would Stick Do" when encountering a tough one. And if Roy Huntington calls and tells me he wants a writeup on that longslide 1911 I'm building... no diss to Ichiro Nagata intended but in that scenario I'd rather have you do the photography, or the two of you split the work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    Sure does look like it is right next to the gas block. One of downsides to KM and ML for me on middies compared to Pic, my support hand wants to be where the gas block is located and has forced me to come up creative solutions for placing scales, support controls, light and switch mounts.
    It’s nowhere near the gas block, in fact it’s at the rear most part of the rail. If you look you can see some wear & tear from the built in QD mount in the rail on the very back of the rail, that’s why I wanted to install a Keymod mount so I wouldn’t wear out the built in QD in the rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    Look at when the clowns on arfcom took the comment about barrels which BCM made and went insane. BCM quoted their barrels were made to milspec, and as such, they were rated for the military standard rate of fire (I'm paraphrasing). Arfcom took that comment out of the given context and it took years for people to get over it.
    I thought that was because they accused (two?) guys of firing full auto for xxxx rounds or massive volume outside of full auto fire, but he/they explicitly claimed to have very low round count on the barrels.

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