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    Constitutional Carry = lower "gun crime" rates in OH

    Not only did crime rates not go up as expected by anti gun hand ringers, it dropped slightly in most major cities:

    Change in Concealed Carry Law Did Not Drive Violent Crime in Ohio Cities, Study Shows

    1/3/2024

    (COLUMBUS, Ohio) — Six of Ohio’s eight largest cities saw less gun crime after the state’s “constitutional carry” law took effect, according to a study published today by the Center for Justice Research, a partnership between the office of Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost and Bowling Green State University.

    Beginning June 13, 2022, Ohio became the 23rd state to allow its citizens to carry a concealed weapon without a permit. In the year following, crime involving guns dropped across Ohio’s eight largest cities as a whole and in six of the eight individually.

    “This is not to downplay the very real problem of crime in many neighborhoods in our cities – you don’t need a research team to see that gun violence destroys lives, families and opportunity,” Yost said. “The key takeaway from this study is that we have to keep the pressure on the criminals who shoot people, rather than Ohioans who responsibly exercise their Second Amendment rights.”

    Last year, mayors of several large cities blamed crime in their local communities on the change in state law – comments that were the impetus for the study, Yost said.

    “I genuinely did not know what the study would find,” he said. “I thought it would be useful either way.”

    The study, which explored the relationship between permitless carry and crime involving firearms in the state’s eight most populous cities, demonstrates that the law change is not the problem, the Attorney General said.

    Researchers analyzed data spanning from June 2021 to June 2023 – a year before and a year after the law took effect – focusing on crimes involving firearms, verified gunshot-detection alerts and the number of officers struck by gunfire.

    Center for Justice Research Director Melissa Burek, who has a doctorate in criminal justice, led the research.

    The study showed significant decreases in the number of crimes involving firearms in Akron, Columbus and Toledo, and across all eight cities combined.

    The rate of gun crime in Parma fell the most – by 22% – followed by Akron and Toledo, each with decreases of 18%. Rates for Dayton and Cincinnati increased by 6% and 5%, respectively.

    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/...t-Drive-Violen
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    Shocker.
    “An armed Society, is a Polite Society”.
    A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.

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    Good follow up, the OH AG does not sound like an idiot, so win win of OH:

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    With LA (28th, effective July 4th) and SC (29th) Constitutional Carry has pretty much run it’s course. NC will likely make #30, two thirds of the country and that will probably be it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Fwkd4w_h0
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    With LA (28th, effective July 4th) and SC (29th) Constitutional Carry has pretty much run it’s course. NC will likely make #30, two thirds of the country and that will probably be it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Fwkd4w_h0
    SC cops are pissed.

    https://abcnews4.com/news/local/irre...ws-4-wciv-2024

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Tough shit bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    Tough shit bitches.
    Rules for thee but not for me… typical response from the egocentric members of the armed-political wing of government. They’re probably pissy because their cush off-duty and post-retirement gigs are sure to dry up… boo-f’ing hoo.
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    Good info to counter false narratives used to promote fear and defeat legislation aimed at repealing infringements.

    On the other hand, I don’t consider my constitutionally protected liberties dependent on crime statistics of the day. In other words… if constitutional carry was associated with an increase in crime my position would not change. Shall not be infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Pretty much the story with a bunch of states that went Constitutional Carry. It really doesn't paint cops in a good light and that's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    Pretty much the story with a bunch of states that went Constitutional Carry. It really doesn't paint cops in a good light and that's a shame.
    They don’t care. The first firearms trainer I had, trainer for CPD for years, was merciless in his criticism of fellow cops. A Facebook quote popped up not long ago, I had shared something he said, something about most cops are cops because the garbage department wasn’t hiring.

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