China Has Never Canceled This Many Shipments of US Wheat

**tn1911** · 03-12-24, 07:14

China Has Never Canceled This Many Shipments of US Wheat

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china...160234338.html

Speculation is that Chinamart is exporting weapons to Russia and China wants paid upfront and won't accept shitbag rubles. So instead, China is taking Russian wheat offsetting what China needs from the US.

And they are getting wheat at sub-market prices.

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 03-12-24, 08:01

Interesting. I think Russia had been using wheat, and a lack of Ukrainian wheat, to put pressure on non-aligned countries to support them. If they are selling wheat to China, that is less wheat to use as a diplomatic carrot, or wheat.

**Averageman** · 03-12-24, 08:38

They're going to get bit in the ass on this one.

Edit to add that I know nothing about Russian wheat, but a bit about American wheat. Certain regions and I believe it is the Dakota's grow the very best wheat to use and more importantly store.
I'm not sure Russia has anyhting comparable.
So if you don't know how well a grain stores and travels, you're taking a chance on losing a bit of it or even more.

**glocktogo** · 03-12-24, 09:43

Originally Posted by Averageman

They're going to get bit in the ass on this one.

Edit to add that I know nothing about Russian wheat, but a bit about American wheat. Certain regions and I believe it is the Dakota's grow the very best wheat to use and more importantly store.
I'm not sure Russia has anyhting comparable.
So if you don't know how well a grain stores and travels, you're taking a chance on losing a bit of it or even more.

You're assuming the PRC cares what they feed their people. They don't.

**1168** · 03-12-24, 10:34

Originally Posted by Averageman

They're going to get bit in the ass on this one.

Edit to add that I know nothing about Russian wheat, but a bit about American wheat. Certain regions and I believe it is the Dakota's grow the very best wheat to use and more importantly store.
I'm not sure Russia has anyhting comparable.
So if you don't know how well a grain stores and travels, you're taking a chance on losing a bit of it or even more.

I know little about wheat in general, but I know US wheat has a higher protein content than most Euro wheat, which is why some sensitivities are more noticed in US populations despite actual incidence being higher in some parts of Europe. From what I’m told, US wheat is bred or modified specifically to maximize this content, and there are legal restrictions to where it can be shipped.

I also noticed wheat suddenly being planted all over rural SC in 2022, for the first time since moving there. The climate and terrain is completely wrong for wheat, or so I’m told, because wheat gets destroyed by late-season rains, though it looks like the lucked out and got a harvest in before that happened. Could it be that total US crop yields were above projections?

**Averageman** · 03-12-24, 11:06

Originally Posted by 1168

I know little about wheat in general, but I know US wheat has a higher protein content than most Euro wheat, which is why some sensitivities are more noticed in US populations despite actual incidence being higher in some parts of Europe. From what I’m told, US wheat is bred or modified specifically to maximize this content, and there are legal restrictions to where it can be shipped.

I also noticed wheat suddenly being planted all over rural SC in 2022, for the first time since moving there. The climate and terrain is completely wrong for wheat, or so I’m told, because wheat gets destroyed by late-season rains, though it looks like the lucked out and got a harvest in before that happened. Could it be that total US crop yields were above projections?

I know if you buy Wheat for food storage, you want a hard, high protien wheat that is very dry.
Those conditions are pretty good for the midwest, but they aren't found everywhere.
How it is shipped and under what conditions etc., you could lose an awful lot of grain.

**1168** · 03-12-24, 11:19

Originally Posted by Averageman

I know if you buy Wheat for food storage, you want a hard, high protien wheat that is very dry.
Those conditions are pretty good for the midwest, but they aren't found everywhere.
How it is shipped and under what conditions etc., you could lose an awful lot of grain.

Yeah. In Europe, you don’t see this type of wheat as much.

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 03-12-24, 15:59

For all the rages bout European breads, this last summer when I was in Italy and especially FRance, I found the bread to be about Panera grade. Even the ‘artisanal’ grades in Paris proper with a foodie guide. Wonder if that has something to do with the wheat? Our wheat has gotten better over the past 50 years and we stopped eating so much “Wonder’ Bread.

**1168** · 03-12-24, 16:49

I don’t find bread anywhere particularly noteworthy, except Louisiana, Afghanistan, Pakistan, E Africa. France and Italy are unremarkable…don’t lynch me. I’ve heard NY has unique bread, but I stay away.