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    The GOODS - North Field of Galaxies Courtesy James Webb Space Telescope...

    Those aren't stars folks.



    Consider the distance between our milky way galaxy and the nearest one, Andromeda galaxy which is about 2.5 million light years away, and we are looking at a LOT of space and an amazing number of galaxies.

    I do believe in the next 50 years we are gonna have to come up with a bigger number for the age of the universe because the visible universe is gonna keep changing.
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    Nothing is moving, the forces between everything are just getting weaker.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Nothing is moving, the forces between everything are just getting weaker.
    Two things.

    1. I never mentioned moving, but seems like everything IS moving. Certainly WE move around the sun and our solar system is in an arm of the milky way galaxy that rotates around a center.

    2. My comment about age of the universe is based upon how far we can see distant galaxies, I don't think we've seen everything yet, I think there is more out there than we can even imagine which means as a consequence the universe will be older than we currently believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Nothing is moving, the forces between everything are just getting weaker.
    When people say stuff like this... it makes my brain hurt.
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    It was more kind of a joke about relativity, a Grand Unified Forces Model, and how even atoms appear to me mostly empty space. My other standard joke is that by observing all these extended galaxies, we are collapsing the wave function and bringing about the end of the universe.

    I alternate between contemplating collapsing the universe’s wave function and the Bronze Age collapse.

    That and an off-color ‘double-slit’ joke I’m working on, but I can’t decide which way to go with it.

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    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Those aren't stars folks.


    Consider the distance between our milky way galaxy and the nearest one, Andromeda galaxy which is about 2.5 million light years away, and we are looking at a LOT of space and an amazing number of galaxies.

    I do believe in the next 50 years we are gonna have to come up with a bigger number for the age of the universe because the visible universe is gonna keep changing.
    One reason it changes is it's expanding, so the observable universe has expanded each time we look. Is that in addition to what we may see plus expansion? I say yes. The universe may be far larger than we can observe due to the rate of expansion vs the speed of light, and all manner of other variables known and yet unknown. In theory, we are able to see more and more of the universe with the passing of time. It's also important to note the rate of expansion is still being estimated by different methods:

    https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/03/08...ide-one-answer
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    Always makes me think of Frederick Pohl's epic book "The World At The End Of Time". One of my favorites. Would make an amazing movie.

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    Halton Arp may get his Nobel yet.... here's Dr Sabine Hofstadter on some of the problems with the Standard Model that have been further exacerbated by JWST observations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    It was more kind of a joke about relativity, a Grand Unified Forces Model, and how even atoms appear to me mostly empty space. My other standard joke is that by observing all these extended galaxies, we are collapsing the wave function and bringing about the end of the universe.

    I alternate between contemplating collapsing the universe’s wave function and the Bronze Age collapse.

    That and an off-color ‘double-slit’ joke I’m working on, but I can’t decide which way to go with it.

    Nothing to see here.
    Given all the whackadoo stuff on the internet about space and the universe, I don't think there are any more jokes. Just waiting for Flat Universe theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    One reason it changes is it's expanding, so the observable universe has expanded each time we look. Is that in addition to what we may see plus expansion? I say yes. The universe may be far larger than we can observe due to the rate of expansion vs the speed of light, and all manner of other variables known and yet unknown. In theory, we are able to see more and more of the universe with the passing of time. It's also important to note the rate of expansion is still being estimated by different methods:

    https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/03/08...ide-one-answer
    So what I was going after is the universe could be twice as big and twice as old as we currently believe and we'd never know it because that light simply hasn't reached us yet and / or it's too faint to be observed at that distance. I don't think we've ever seen the edge of the universe and I doubt we ever will.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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