95gr 9mm

[Failure2Stop]

Any terminal ballisitc info on a 95gr 9mm manufacturered by Radway Green?

Just spent some time with a very interesting organization that is using this ammo, but was unable to get much info about it. No idea if it is +P, velocity, used in handguns or subguns or anything. I just saw empty boxes- no indication on them of anything other than weight and caliber.

Anything?

[sinister]

The Ball or Hollow Point?

There was concern with SIG P226 cracking with military standard and heavy 9mm. Maybe a way of getting a faster bullet with slightly less frame battering?

[Failure2Stop]

Don't know if it was JHP or ball. I assume that it is a HP, but was looking to see if anyone had hard data. The unit primarily uses G17s (but also employs several others) and a few different 9mm loads.

[ToddG]

If it's loaded to max pressure, it will actually probably wear out guns faster than heavier stuff. Slide velocities will be significant.

My recollection is that most of the 95gr stuff was JSP, an early approach to reducing ricochet threats.

I wouldn't volunteer to get shot with it, but I don't think any of it falls within the "happy zone" of current terminal ballistics thinking in terms of pen/exp. Doctor Roberts would obviously be the guy with the answers ...

[RWK]

Wasn't LAPD or NYPD issuing 95-gr loads in the past?

[Abraxas]

Wasn't LAPD or NYPD issuing 95-gr loads in the past?

I know that for a while NYPD was issuing 124gr JHP. But I don't know on what scope

[DrJSW]

It seems to me that the progression to the 147's has begun to swing back toward middleweights in the upper midwest... 124-127 gr offerings.

[tpd223]

I've shot this load into water. Zero expansion, high penetration, you could have reloaded the bullet and shot it again.

Not my first choice unless I was rabbit hunting with my Glock.


Doc, you may recall that we use the 124gr +P Gold Dot here. We are one of the few 9mm agencies in the area, but all of the rest around here use the +P Gold Dot or 127gr +P+ Ranger-T.


We did some gello testing here of the various 147gr loads when I was running the range program. I'd carry the Gold Dot, Ranger-T or HST without any heartburn. I did most of our shooting with my G26s so I could get an idea how the little guns performed.

Portland reports the 147gr HST working well for them, LAPD still issues the 147gr Ranger-T, it's a very proven load.

[TiroFijo]

What is the difference in performance between the +P+ and +P loads of the 127gr Ranger-T? I see both listed in the win site:

http://www.winchester.com/lawenforce.../testing.aspx#

If you go to "Launch Testing Comparison Tool" the difference in performance doesn´t seem to justify the +P+ extra recoil, blast and wear on the gun, am I missing something?

What about these loads compared to the Speer 124gr +P Gold Dot, is there any meaningful difference?

[DocGKR]

I believe you will find only the 127 gr RA9TA is +P+, while both the 124 gr RA9124TP and RA9BAB are +P.