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    Quote Originally Posted by sff70 View Post
    Per Hilton Yam, it's a series 80 gun and they are planning on delivering in Q1 09 with a retail price of $1050.

    I do wonder where the frame is sourced from. If it's a series 80 gun, I don't think it's Caspian.
    I wouldn't hold your breath. The DE was supposed to be released 2nd Q of 08 and you never heard a peep out of Colt and now it is being shown as a "retro" ???? As I said before only Colt knows.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by sff70 View Post
    Per Hilton Yam, it's a series 80 gun and they are planning on delivering in Q1 09 with a retail price of $1050.

    I do wonder where the frame is sourced from. If it's a series 80 gun, I don't think it's Caspian.
    Colt doesn't "source" their frames from anyone, they make their own in house. I'm not sure where you got that idea from?

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    Colt

    Yes they make their own frames, but who knows if they are making their own railed frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .45fmjoe View Post
    Colt doesn't "source" their frames from anyone, they make their own in house. I'm not sure where you got that idea from?
    I appreciate your input and you are correct that in the past everything has been "in house". Almost every railed 1911 frame used today is outsourced. That includes Nighthawk, older Baers etc.....

    I would not assume that that is the case with Colt until you speak with Colt. I will say I have never seen that rail frame before and I dont think it is Caspian, so it very well could be Colt's design and build. With Colt now using CNC who knows.........

    Personally I would prefer a simple Dawson rail. That rail is the oddest one I have ever laid eyes on and I am not impressed.

    Keep in mind I am a Colt guy but I also call it the way I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d90king View Post
    I appreciate your input and you are correct that in the past everything has been "in house". Almost every railed 1911 frame used today is outsourced. That includes Nighthawk, older Baers etc.....

    I would not assume that that is the case with Colt until you speak with Colt. I will say I have never seen that rail frame before and I dont think it is Caspian, so it very well could be Colt's design and build. With Colt now using CNC who knows.........

    Personally I would prefer a simple Dawson rail. That rail is the oddest one I have ever laid eyes on and I am not impressed.

    Keep in mind I am a Colt guy but I also call it the way I see it.
    Eh, it's a Colt and it has a light rail. I am happy.

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    Collt makes their own receivers, slides and barrels in house.
    One of the reasons the Colt rail frame has been long in coming, was the investment required for a special forging die and new tooling to produce the railed frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Morrison View Post
    Collt makes their own receivers, slides and barrels in house.
    One of the reasons the Colt rail frame has been long in coming, was the investment required for a special forging die and new tooling to produce the railed frame.

    You would have thought with all that time they could have deigned one that wasnt so ugly. This would have been a good one to copy.


    By the way you do some beautiful work on 1911's. Best of luck to you in the future.
    I am a Harrison man myself


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    Mr. Morrison - Thank You for this information.

    d90king - Yes, the railed NHC/VT is a seriously nice pistol.

    Mine has been flawless, but I only have 7500 rounds through it.

    A Colt "Rail Gun", series 80 or not, would go nicely with my NH.

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    Hardly any "manufacturer" out sources their frames. When I say manufacturer, I don't mean small companies that buy outsourced major parts and build a custom gun on them.

    If Kimber, Smith and Wesson, Springfield, Para, Rock River (before they went to shit as a company), STI, Sig, etcetera can all make their own frames, so can Colt.
    The luxury of freedom was not free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I was not at ALL impressed with the Colt "custom shop" section of their display. Gritty, half assed, rough texture, bad concept, and horrendous QC abound. They even brought out a Delta Elite with the paint for the front sight dot running all over the front sight post.

    SHOT is where you come to put your best foot forward. If these guns were their best foot, I'd hate to see what the back foot looks like. And if they were examples of what we can expect from production guns, I'll pass. Bigtime. In terms of 1911s, Colt isn't doing anything I can't get better for less somewhere else. Unless someone wants to make up a chart to show me how I'm wrong, there was nothing there that remotely interested me.

    The Colt custom shop does not do "custom" work like what people think as 1911 gunsmithing. All they do is custom configurations.

    Colt is one of the few companies that makes 1911s with forged slides and frames rather than cast or milled bar stock.

    Many people don't like their fit or sloppyness. You have to understand what you are buying. You are buying a 1911 that is made the GI way.

    I don't like series 80 1911s and wish this rail gun was a series 70 as it is more for "hard" use.
    "Not every thing on Earth requires an aftermarket upgrade." demigod/markm

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