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    Good thing we cannot carry guns in schools!

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ack/index.html

    Children dead in Belgian nursery knife attack

    (CNN) -- Two children and one adult were killed Friday in a stabbing attack at a nursery school in Belgium, officials said.

    Ten children and two adults were being treated in the hospital after the attack, the Interior Ministry said. It was unclear whether all of them suffered stab wounds.

    The attacker entered the day care center in Dendermonde, about 16 miles northwest of Brussels, around 10 a.m. (4 a.m. ET) and began stabbing children and staff, the ministry said.

    "The guy just went crazy," local official Theo Janssens said, according to Agence France-Presse news agency.

    He was arrested an hour and a half afterwards, according to the Interior Ministry. Reports said he was trying to make his escape on a bicycle.

    Local journalist Bart Bekaert told CNN that the attacker's face was painted black and white. VideoHear Bekaert describe the attack »

    "Witnesses say he looked calm. There was no security and he just walked straight in," he added.

    AFP reported that the man was not known to staff at the nursery.


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    Indiana law is that you cannot carry on school property or to a school event nor can you leave your weapon in your vehicle. If you have a LTC then you can drop off or pick up a student from a school as long as you do not exit your vehicle.

    Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!!!

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    Let's use the First Amendment to protect the Second so we can avoid using the Second to protect the First.

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    poor children prayers with those parents for sure !!!!!


    man this stuff is so disturbing

    I say bring back town square justice and let him get stoned to death or hung

    and sadly does show guns are not the root evil !!!

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    This is the stuff that pisses me off the most and secures in me a renewed vigilance.

    I am impressed with the reactions of the adult's to help defend the children.

    May God preside over these children's souls in heaven and help the survivors along their recovery.

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    Dont know if this is a dupe. But there was another killing VA-Tech.

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/192005


    When Virginia Tech authorities arrived Wednesday night at a cafe inside the Graduate Life Center, they found a decapitated female victim who had arrived on campus just two weeks ago and a young man they have now charged with killing her.

    Authorities, including Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum, outlined some of the gruesome details of Wednesday night's murder on campus at a press conference this morning.

    They said Xin Yang, a 22-year-old graduate student from Beijing, arrived Jan. 8 to begin her studies in accounting at the Pamplin College of Business. She lived in the graduate life center.

    Haiyang Zhu, 25, a graduate student from China, was charged late Wednesday with first-degree murder and is being held without bond. He is a Ph.D. graduate student majoring in agricultural and applied economics. He began his studies at Virginia Tech at the start of the 2008 fall semester. Tech officials said the victim and suspect knew each other and Yang listed Zhu as an emergency contact.

    Flinchum said the two were sitting at a table at the Au Bon Pain cafe in the Graduate Life Center when the disturbance began. There were seven witnesses to the events and two called 911 at 7:06 p.m.

    When authorities arrived less than two minutes later, they discovered Yang's dead body, Zhu and a large kitchen knife that they believe is the murder weapon. Zhu did not resist arrest. There is no record of him being called to the attention of Tech or Blacksburg police or the university's threat assessment or CARE team before Wednesday.

    Classes were not cancelled today and the graduate life center is open. The windows and glass doors of Au Bon Pain are blocked from the inside and the cafe is closed.

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    Just out of curiousity, what is the law when it comes to pulling out a gun and shooting a guy who is killing someone other than yourself? Are you going to go to prison for that?
    Last edited by zippygaloo; 01-23-09 at 18:43.

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    Honestly depends on the state. Many State's you'd be seen as a hero/good citizen. Other state's (like MA) would portray you as some sort of Vigilante out for blood and a crazed loon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippygaloo View Post
    Just out of curiousity, what is the law when it comes to pulling out a gun and shooting a guy who is killing someone other than yourself? Are you going to go to prison for that?
    Unfortunately that is a very iffy situation. I will admit, If I saw a man attacking someone then pulls a weapon, I would use lethal force if I saw that there was no other possible outcome. Sometimes that'll get you a murder charge. As long as you feel its justified, do it....just be ready to live with the consequences of your actions.

    ETA: By justified I don't mean, "oh shit he pulled out a knife, I need to draw my 1911 and put 2 to center mass". Use the common sense god gave you.
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    Im an Education Major at my college. I have talked to a teacher from the Kansas City area and he said he wished he was allowed to carry. I brought it up to one of my professors and she didnt understand. She almost seemed upset I brought it up. "We arent qualified" to carry she said. Some people just dont get it. Even when horrible events like this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Doom View Post
    Im an Education Major at my college. I have talked to a teacher from the Kansas City area and he said he wished he was allowed to carry. I brought it up to one of my professors and she didnt understand. She almost seemed upset I brought it up. "We arent qualified" to carry she said. Some people just dont get it. Even when horrible events like this happen.

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    SHE may not be qualified, but there are plenty of others that are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippygaloo View Post
    Just out of curiousity, what is the law when it comes to pulling out a gun and shooting a guy who is killing someone other than yourself? Are you going to go to prison for that?
    Shoot- just make sure your aim is good and you're sure which one needs to be shot. just because someone's stabbing another person doesn't mean they're the bad guy.

    Oregon has a good semaritan law AND a clause that protects you from liability if you're trying to help someone in good faith. i'll pull the ORSs for you, or you can search 'em yourself.

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