Interesting shooting

[C4IGrant]

Here is a good one folks! This guy (Tice) (http://www.ohio.com/news/37986589.html) kills his wife and is hold up in the basement with their son (hostage). He has a weapon with him. SWAT enters the house and is able to spy on him while he is in the basement. They see that he sometimes sets the rifle (a .22) down and walks away from it. As soon as he put the gun down, SWAT comes into the basement. The first guy in the stack is running an AR15. The second guy is running an MP5SD.

Tice sees them coming and heads towards his weapon. The first officer in the stack drops the hammer on his AR and gets a CLICK! The second guy fires at least on round from his MP5SD and hits the guy square in the forehead (see pic of this in the link above) and disintegrates! The guy is STILL on his feet at this point with nothing more than a a headache.

It is my understanding that this all took place in under 10ft and there was a round in the chamber of the first officers AR. The primer was crushed and did not go bang. The round used was from Federal. I do not know what brand of 9mm was used (yet).

Lot's of lessons learned here I think.



C4

[Jay Cunningham]

1. Nice shot placement from the officer with the MP5.

2. That guy looks like Mr Hyde from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

3. If the guy is worth shooting once he is probably worth shooting several times.

[ZDL]

wow....

[zippygaloo]

Man I always thought the "a (insert cartridge name here) is not enough to stop a man" was a little BS, but after seeing that guy and knowing he got hit square in the forehead by a 9mm round tells me I have a lot to learn. Meaning you would think the guy would be six feet under, but he isn't.

[Jay Cunningham]

The guy looks like the precursor to Cro-Magnon Man, so consider the thickness of his skull vs. the 9mm round...

[ZDL]

The guy looks like the precursor to Cro-Magnon Man, so consider the thickness of his skull vs. the 9mm round...

lol. Agree.

I'm taking the lesson of "have a backup plan". How many failures in one story here?

bean bags
federal
ar
9mm
hk.....

Geesh. Shit happens sometimes.

[Gutshot John]

Man I always thought the "a (insert cartridge name here) is not enough to stop a man" was a little BS, but after seeing that guy and knowing he got hit square in the forehead by a 9mm round tells me I have a lot to learn.

Unfortunately there is no such thing as a death ray.

They probably only fired once since he dropped and there was probably a ton of blood.

Bullets, even big powerful ones, are always subject to variables beyond our control...like some people have really HARD heads.

http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[citizensoldier16]

Interesting note...the last paragraph of the article refers to an "MP5 assault rifle" Apparently their editor is anti-gun, or just too ignorant to know the difference.

[Buckaroo]

From the article:

SWAT members worked their way inside the home and shot Tice with an MP5 assault rifle after failing to subdue the 6-foot-1, 280-pound man with nonlethal bean bags fired from a gun.

Note to self: Do not shoot Cro-Magnon Man with a Non-Lethal as it will just piss him off so that when you shoot him in the head he will not feel it!!!

and

Family members say Tice was angered over his wife's affair with a family member and her demand for a divorce. He is accused of shooting his wife in the living room, taking his son and holding police at bay for eight hours.

Damn Hillbillies moving north?

Buckaroo (who has Moonshiners in his family tree!

[Iraqgunz]

Whatever happened to shooting center of mass? Curious as to why more shots weren't fired? Was the threat stopped at that point?