My year with Pmags

[ZDL]

Just speculation on my part:

Given that the break is in the exact same place and appears to be caused by a pretty consistently delivered force, and given that it happened to an unusually high percentage of your mags, and given that is happened with multiple generations of the mags ...

Is it possible that some (or all) of the guns are playing a role? Either something is out of spec in the mag well or some part of the gun involved in stripping and feeding rounds into the chamber?

Have you done anything to identify which guns are producing the broken mags?

Agree. After you change the battery in your car 3 times in 1 month... It's time to look elsewhere for the reason your car won't start.

Very strange indeed. I'm interested in the outcome of this.

[AirTrafficControl]

I'm just going to have a seat and enjoy some popcorn on this thread.

[rob_s]

Also curious about make/model of rifles, unless I missed it.

[SERT103]

This is the second Pmag that I have had crack in the exact same spot. The first one I had crack was during a SWAT school in NC a year ago. During day two I noticed that the top right round would just pop out the top. Upon inspection is when I noticed the crack. The mags were brand new, never loaded before the class. Despite the crack, I continued to use the mag to see if it would ever make the gun malfunction which it never did. I called magpul and of course they made it right!

So here we are a year later, I was shooting at the NRA range and laid my mag down on the table and again...the top round goes shooting across the table. I think to myself...not again! Upon inspection this one is cracked too. I shot the loaded rounds out of it and no malfunctions. I do not store my mags loaded and they are kept inside my safe. Both mags were manufactured in 10/07 and were windowed versions. I called magpul again and like always customer service is excellent and they are sending me a replacement. When I told him the date code he stated that that wasn't the first time that that date code has come up. Unfortunately, 6 out of the 7 pmags that I own are date coded 10/07.

ETA: The mag that split in NC, was my duty 6920. The one that split at the NRA was my factory complete LMT 16"

ETA2: Mags were never dropped on the feedlips and never beaten.

ETA3: When I spoke to magpul, they stated it was a problem in the molding process that has caused this.

[taliv]

guys, mags are a wear item. as I've reported before, last year, i used 10 D&H from bravoco and 10 pmags all year. i had 2 of the pmags develop cracks exactly like the ones in this thread, and 3 of the D&H mags either bend feed lips or have welds on the spine let go.

obviously my sample size is smaller, but the point is, my pmags are holding up as well or better than quality aluminum mags.

if you use them hard, particularly if you practice speed reloads with at least partially loaded mags, they wear out. they're 15 freakin dollars. buy a lifetime supply.
you'd be crazy to think they'll last forever

bully for magpul for replacing them. (they replaced mine two well) but i wouldn't think less of them if they didn't. it'd be like goodyear replacing my tires after 30k miles.

[Failure2Stop]

Steve thanks for the info.

I am also curious about the guns involved in the course and if you think that there could be any correlation. Were breakages evenly spead among all weapons or were there greater breakages with particular students/guns?

What was the ground type?

Is it possible to share the date stamp, or is there concern that it could cause a deluge of needless returns to MagPul? Are all the broken mags from the same date stamp? Were other date stamps present in the sample?

Cheers.

[1SFG]

I've seen a lot of mags go down in my time, but don't know that I've ever seen a significant number break in exactly the same place. That's pretty interesting. As others have stated, would love to know if any effort has been made to determine whether something in the rifle is partially responsible, or if this is just a high stress area that's bad in a particular batch. Definitely keep us updated.

[bmg]

Any chance this is due to partially loaded mags being dropped onto a concrete floor or other hard surface?

[Iraqgunz]

Para,

So when did you order your mags? Mine have been B/O since 01 DEC 08.

never understood the people who "transitioned" from USGI over to PMags. an agency or department is one thing, but for a private individual to ever sell working magazines for a weapon system they still use never made sense to me.

i like having a healthy supply of Lancers, USGI and PMags.


speaking of PMags, my back-order on PMags is shipping from Brownells today. even getting some 20 round PMags that i've wanted for so long. oh happy happy happy times.

[Parabellum9x19mm]

i hate to tell you this but 02 JAN 2009.

the thing is, they called me saying my CC declined, because i must have entered the numbers wrong, so i gave the lady the correct numbers and it went thru.

i asked if they were shipping out today or the next day and she said yes. maybe my screw up somehow caused me to line-jump or something? i'm not sure.