anyone try the Bushmaster Carbon 15 R97F Rifle

[scottryan]

i want to get the Bushmaster Carbon 15 R97F Rifle for my wife, she is about 90lbs, she doesn't like my LMT, because she can only hold it for about 5 sec., hoping she'll like bushmaster super light weight (4.5lbs). she said i can't get another rifle untill she get one.
anyone try the Bushmaster Carbon 15 R97F Rifle? know anyone have it instock? or anyone can think of a better rifle, have to be super light weight.

The AR-15 is already the lightest assault rifle in existence.

The Carbon 15s are total junk.

Build here a carbine with a lightweight barrel or tell her to start lifting weights.

[S&Wfan]

Sorry,

She's NOT gonna be strong enough either to rack the slide on an AR-15 or any kind of semi-auto handgun either so, until she can hit the gym, I'd recommend a revolver for her . . . probably an aluminum-framed S&W "Airweight" with the rarer 3" barrel version.

At a mere 16 oz., it is easy to train on, simple to check if it is loaded or not, and easy to reload too. Yeah . . . if she needs it, its gonna kick . . . but the 3" barreled version doesn't kick too bad . . . and it has a long enough barrel to encourage her as she becomes more accurate with it.

Let's face it, most women aren't into AR-15s or any kind of rifles anyway . . . and will depend on cell phones and YOU for their protection.

T.

[dorchester]

M-1 Carbine. Check DocGKR's sticky on the subject.

[CarlosDJackal]

If your wife wants an AR type platform, get her one of them Colts with the pencil-thin barrels and don't attach anything to it except an Aimpoint Micro (of any flavor), a lightweight BUIS (such as a Larue BUIS or similar - which you can add later on if necessary), and maybe a stubby VFG (Larue FUG or TD shorty) but only if she needs one. If she also needs a light, use a Surefire G2 LED in a Viking Light mount.

That should give you a very lightweight fighting AR without the potential problems the Bushy Carbon-15s seem to include (at no cost too!! ).

Another option I have seen are the CAV Arms one-piece Carbon-fiber lowers. But I could not personally attest of their reliability or durability. But combined with an upper with a pencil-thin barrel will maintain a very light rifle.

Good luck!!

[CarlosDJackal]

Sorry,

She's NOT gonna be strong enough either to rack the slide on an AR-15 or any kind of semi-auto handgun either so, until she can hit the gym, I'd recommend a revolver for her . . . probably an aluminum-framed S&W "Airweight" with the rarer 3" barrel version...

I vehemently disagree with this. Why people insist on giving petite women snub-nosed revolvers as their first handgun is beyond me. I have seen way too many petite new shooters/snubby revolver combination go through the many Basic Pistol classes I have taught to tell you that this almost always ends in disaster. The only thing these women end up developing is a very pronounce flinch (usually low) and a deep hatred for shooting.

I have found that once they are taught the proper technique to manipulate a slide, a polymer-framed 9mm, such as the Glock 19 (just as an example), works out much better for the shooter's enjoyment and effectiveness.

Don't get anything "cuter" like the Ruger PF-9, Kel-Tec P-32 or P-3AT or Ruger's version though. Take her to a range that rents handguns or ask some of your friends to let her try different ones. Even better, find a competent Basic Handgun Instructor who would be willing to teach her the fundamentals and to let her try various handguns.

But that's just my 2 cents worth!!

[Iraq Ninja]

Bushmaster will soon be releasing their Origami AR, made out of paper. So, after the rifle takes a shit, it wipes its own ass.


The Cav arms lower is another story. They do work well. Yeager and his boys use them for their course loaner guns, and have thousands of rounds thru em. I have one and I am very happy with it. Only problem is that the take down pins can be a pain to push out quickly, and can become lost..

[lmt-cazy]

I vehemently disagree with this. Why people insist on giving petite women snub-nosed revolvers as their first handgun is beyond me. I have seen way too many petite new shooters/snubby revolver combination go through the many Basic Pistol classes I have taught to tell you that this almost always ends in disaster. The only thing these women end up developing is a very pronounce flinch (usually low) and a deep hatred for shooting.

I have found that once they are taught the proper technique to manipulate a slide, a polymer-framed 9mm, such as the Glock 19 (just as an example), works out much better for the shooter's enjoyment and effectiveness.

Don't get anything "cuter" like the Ruger PF-9, Kel-Tec P-32 or P-3AT or Ruger's version though. Take her to a range that rents handguns or ask some of your friends to let her try different ones. Even better, find a competent Basic Handgun Instructor who would be willing to teach her the fundamentals and to let her try various handguns.

But that's just my 2 cents worth!!

i agree with you, every time we are at the gun store, they always try to sell her a revolver, my wife have her own handgun SIG P250 9mm (only one that fit her hand size, and is light trigger), Glock's grip just too big for her.
she toke few handgun classes, and enjoy shooting, now i just want to give her something more power than a handgun.

[restfortheweary]

I disagree with the blind hatred for the carbon 15. First off it is a BushMaster, which is not my first choice for a quality AR. I think we all agree that they are not hard use guns, especially when made of polymer. But they are great range toys, which sounds like what you want for your wife.
I have owned both the R97F and currently have a SBR 9mm Carbon 15. Which weighs nothing with an H-1 on top. When it's time for work I reach for my N4, but for play time at the range the Carbon's are reliable and fun. Just my minority opinion, for what's it worth.

[welchtactical]

I had several of them come back to me at the gunstore I worked at for 6-8 months with cracks through the rear of the lower near where the buffer tube screws into the lower. I'd avoid it! Look at Cav Arms lowers. They hold up and are all "plastic". I'd say go with a light-weight pencil barrel, plastic handguards and light weight flip-up rear sight instead of a carry-handle, or chop your CH down.

[Disciple]

Thinking out loud. If the LMT isn't loaded down, and it's still too heavy, maybe a 10/22 is the place to start.
A pencil barrel upper on a Cavalry Arms lower must be light, but I haven't handled one myself.
I don't recall how much the restricted P-90 weighs, but it probably feels lighter than it is.