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    Quote Originally Posted by 28_days View Post
    No one said they claimed they look good, but that doesn't give them an excuse to at least look on par with other top tier rifles.
    oh... my... goodness... if by "top tier" you mean "tier 1" which means current DoD contract, then you're talking about these four manufacturers only:

    Colt
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    You'll find forge flash and handling marks on all four of these rifles. They're battle weapons, and battle weapons are NOT known for good finish machining. This isn't some mystery, this isn't something that's not known and established... nobody with experience with tier 1 weapons confuses forge flash with poor quality. these rifles are intended to be thrown off the truck, spray painted, passed out to soldiers and slammed against rocks and dirt and brick and be abused. The TDP has no subsection for "appearance." They comply to DoD standards in every way. THATS why people want them. If you buy these guns, EXPECT to have forge flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    oh... my... goodness... if by "top tier" you mean "tier 1" which means current DoD contract, then you're talking about these four manufacturers only:

    Colt
    LMT
    Sabre
    FN

    You'll find forge flash and handling marks on all four of these rifles. They're battle weapons, and battle weapons are NOT known for good finish machining. This isn't some mystery, this isn't something that's not known and established... nobody with experience with tier 1 weapons confuses forge flash with poor quality. these rifles are intended to be thrown off the truck, spray painted, passed out to soldiers and slammed against rocks and dirt and brick and be abused. The TDP has no subsection for "appearance." They comply to DoD standards in every way. THATS why people want them. If you buy these guns, EXPECT to have forge flash.

    Seriously, these are FIGHTING TOOLS. And it's pretty silly to compare their fit-n-finish to fancy cars that people drive around to show off in.


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    If it is ridiculous to compare a Colt to a Corvette, then it is DAMN SURE ridiculous to compare a Colt to a freaking FRAMING HAMMER? OMG now we are talking about framing hammers? FRAMING HAMMERS ARE MEANT to be trashed, and EVERYONE who owns one WILL beat it up!
    NEWS FLASH gentlemen,
    NOT everyone beats up their AR, and not everyone wants one that is already blem'd when they buy it! Even guys who DO beat up their AR's, sometimes want their new AR's to be nice and blem free.
    Some guys want the blems on their AR's to be there ONLY because THEY put them there. NOT because Colt was too lazy to handle the receivers properly! Damn that's so simple to comprehend, I just cannot fathom some of the statements here.


    I'll say it again for those who are slow to comprehend. The BOTTOM LINE is that everyone who buys a freaking framing hammer IS GOING TO BEAT IT UP AND BLEM IT. (and btw, I happen to own a contracting business, and I can go inside Home Depot and the majority of the hammers in there are NOT all blem'd up. They are nice and polished and have NO dents/dings/stratches on them.) I have more experience with hammers than most unfortunately LOL!
    HOWEVER (this is a big however now, so proceed carefully gentlemen), NOT EVERYONE is going to beat up their new AR, and many people do NOT want a blem'd up AR from the beginning.
    PERIOD. Potential AR buyers SHOULD be able to buy a Colt, sight unseen, and be guaranteed a good chance at a nice BLEM FREE AR. PERIOD.

    Now you can argue all you want that people should already know that Colts are often blem'd up, and that is of course true, and fine. HOWEVER, we are not debating whether or not someone should know this already. We are debating whether or not Colt should ship blem'd AR's in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cataldo View Post
    If it is ridiculous to compare a Colt to a Corvette, then it is DAMN SURE ridiculous to compare a Colt to a freaking FRAMING HAMMER? OMG now we are talking about framing hammers? FRAMING HAMMERS ARE MEANT to be trashed, and EVERYONE who owns one WILL beat it up!
    NEWS FLASH gentlemen,
    NOT everyone beats up their AR, and not everyone wants one that is already blem'd when they buy it! Even guys who DO beat up their AR's, sometimes want their new AR's to be nice and blem free.
    Some guys want the blems on their AR's to be there ONLY because THEY put them there. NOT because Colt was too lazy to handle the receivers properly! Damn that's so simple to comprehend, I just cannot fathom some of the statements here.


    I'll say it again for those who are slow to comprehend. The BOTTOM LINE is that everyone who buys a freaking framing hammer IS GOING TO BEAT IT UP AND BLEM IT. (and btw, I happen to own a contracting business, and I can go inside Home Depot and the majority of the hammers in there are NOT all blem'd up. They are nice and polished and have NO dents/dings/stratches on them.) I have more experience with hammers than most unfortunately LOL!
    HOWEVER (this is a big however now, so proceed carefully gentlemen), NOT EVERYONE is going to beat up their new AR, and many people do NOT want a blem'd up AR from the beginning.
    PERIOD. Potential AR buyers SHOULD be able to buy a Colt, sight unseen, and be guaranteed a good chance at a nice BLEM FREE AR. PERIOD.

    Now you can argue all you want that people should already know that Colts are often blem'd up, and that is of course true, and fine. HOWEVER, we are not debating whether or not someone should know this already. We are debating whether or not Colt should ship blem'd AR's in the first place.

    then dont buy a ****in quality gun, they all have forge flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    then dont buy a ****in quality gun, they all have forge flash.
    Umm, EVERY Noveske, LMT and BCM I've owned were PERFECT to my standards. Even the DPMS, Bushys, and RRA's I have seen, have looked great too.
    As stated, NO ONE HERE BUT YOU is worried about "forge flash".
    Most here have been concerned about BLEMS such as scratches, dents/dings.
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    You can wish Colt made "nice" receivers all you want, the fact of the matter is they dont.

    So what's your point? That they "should?" Wish in one hand and shit in the other... see which fills up first. Colt and LMT don't care if you don't like their receivers.

    So again, for clarity, what IS your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    You can wish Colt made "nice" receivers all you want, the fact of the matter is they dont.

    So what's your point? That they "should?" Wish in one hand and shit in the other... see which fills up first. Colt and LMT don't care if you don't like their receivers.

    So again, for clarity, what IS your point?
    I'm sorry you need more clarity, but then, we all know you got the point.
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    I agree with Paul. Also, some people seem to be under the impression that while in the military with an issued weapon you can wantonly abuse said weapon. In my experiences the weapons are not babied, but at the same time if seen bashing or throwing said weapon around, minimum punishment is getting dropped for a bit, maximum is being charged with article 108. I can't recall any finish issues with issued weapons other than the bbls not usually having much finish left due to cleaning chemical misadventures. Of course my issued weapon these days is an M9 so YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Cataldo View Post
    I'm sorry you need more clarity, but then, we all know you got the point.
    no, dude, i don't get the point. You and i apparently have such totally different personalities that we'll never appreciate each other's perspective.

    if i want a nice rifle, i buy accordingly. if i want a battle rifle, i buy an LMT- knowing it'll come scratched and dented and have toolmarks and forge flash. Same as Colt. why is this my expectation, and why doesn't this bother me?

    i wanted to build a "nice" gun for my wife- I got Sun Devil receivers. Why didn't I get Colt receivers?

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