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Thread: Questions on Stag Arms (lefty)

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry0071 View Post
    That makes perfect sence, except that they did also relocate the drift pin for the extractor. Notice it stays in the same position relative to the cam pin? Both the cam pin hole and the drift pin hole are moved in the lefty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuckatelli View Post
    Then you obviously don't understand muscle memory or you don't know how to apply immediate action for a stoppage.

    If you don't agree, fine, post your personal subjective comments but don't go claiming something that someone posts is BS when you don't understand the fundamentals of what he or she is posting.

    You are so wrapped around the axle about the Stag that you refuse to accept anyone's input that doesn't match your subjective experience.

    READ what I posted, if he had experience with an AR and he is concerned about muscle memory............

    I'll help you out a little here; Immediate action involves OBSERVING the ejection port (not your high speed tactical closing of the ejection port cover) and the FORWARD ASSIST.

    That statement of your's pretty much sums up your understanding of immediate action in regards to muscle memory.

    Some people aren't blessed with the 'stop and think a second' method of immediate action.....
    You know what, you're right. I can't possibly know anything about "muscle memory" because I consider your position a load of crap.

    The extremely limited use of the forward assist in "immediate action drills" is of far, far more use than keeping a possible explosion out of your face.

    In fact, Eugene Stoner was a ****ing retard for putting the port on the right side to begin with in his design. After all, had he just listened to some of you folks, he'd have learned the value of having an ejection port inches from your face. That way you could see in there easily if there was a failure of some sort. Assuming your weren't blinded in the first place, of course.

    And last but not least, while I'm far from high-speed, low-drag, most "immediate action drills" I've seen concentrate on racking the action via the charging handle, not potentially jamming it by ramming the forward assist home. In fact, from everything I've ever read on the subject, the forward assist is the last thing you want to touch in a stoppage because it has the very real possibility of hopelessly jamming the weapon. So the actual uses for the forward assist are so limited that it in 99% of cases you could remove the parts entirely and never notice the loss. Isn't the biggest use of it for quietly opening, and reclosing, the action to allow water to drain from the barrel, i.e. during amphibious operations? Hardly an "immediate action" kind of event, wouldn't you say?

    But let's investigate this "immediate action" business a bit more, shall we?

    So tell me, what method of clearing a stoppage does your trainer teach? Is it some variation of "Tap, rack, bang" or it it some variation of "jamb the forward assist?" I've only ever heard of the former, but then again, I'm hardly the walking reference book on the subject. Maybe some guys DO advocate poking the forward assist in a stoppage.

    And once again, the port location and forward assist are the ONLY controls/configuration that are not 100% standard. So right off the bat, 95% of your "muscle memory" arguement goes right out the window because the controls are identical.

    But the bottom line is that they are your eyes. Mine, I care about. Yours? Not so much. I've had an ammo failure on a standard AR15 as a lefty. That was enough to convince me.

    I'll take having to retrain the 5% muscle memory issues over a significant decrease in my risk of serious injury (including blindness) or death. Your mileage may vary.

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    Your mileage may vary.
    Opinions may vary as well.

    I kinda like my Lefty Stag, and those that do not like it... do not need to. It does not hurt my feelings at all that some of the users do not like a lefty style gun any more than it hurts my feelings that someone will buy a vehicle with an automatic trans. Different strokes for different folks

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