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    I run a bore snake down the barrel, clean the chamber with the "stars" and brush\ and finish off by wiping down and re-lubing the bolt carrier group.

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    I use a bore snake in my shotgun and it's the bee's knees. I figured why not with the AR? Obviously you still have to clean the chamber and hard to reach areas (bolt and whatnot). I'm not going to make it harder than it is with all the gadgets. It's a fighting gun.

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    Thanks All

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    Quote Originally Posted by 021411 View Post
    Has anyone ever simplified the cleaning task and just ran wet patches down the pipe and follow it up with a bore snake?
    I have an N4 coming in as well..
    Yes, this is my bore cleaning routine, but I don't use wet patches, I use a cotton bore mop.

    I let Hoppes 9 sit in the barrel for 10-15 minutes, while I clean the BCG and the lower, and then pull the BoreSnake through. Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane1 View Post
    I use a standard Army issue kit with multi-piece rod, brushes etc.
    This is a mistake, IMHO.

    Multi-piece steel rods can do a lot of damage to a barrel. It's fine to have a GI kit around for emergencies, but that's it. If you must use a cleaning rod, then get a one-piece nylon-coated rod.

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    I've been using the Lucas rod guides for many years with my Model 70 bolt guns, so it comes quite naturally to use one also for the AR15s. I see no reason to alter my cleaning routine for in house cleaning. Simply stated, the Lucas guides work well and were designed for the specific purpose of centering the rod to help prevent repetitive cleaning damage.

    The idea for the Lucas originally came from "Speedy" Gonzales a benchrest gunsmith and shooter. He gave me the low down on the Lucas rod guide when I needed information for an article several years ago. At the time, his shop was selling them.

    That said, Sinclair makes top choice gear. I use some of their reloading tools, but for the rod guides, I'll stick with Lucas and Dewey rods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmer View Post
    This is a mistake, IMHO.

    Multi-piece steel rods can do a lot of damage to a barrel. It's fine to have a GI kit around for emergencies, but that's it. If you must use a cleaning rod, then get a one-piece nylon-coated rod.

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    +1

    I keep a three-piece rod in the pack for stuck cases (hasnt happened yet) but clean with a good coated 1 piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmer View Post
    This is a mistake, IMHO.

    Multi-piece steel rods can do a lot of damage to a barrel. It's fine to have a GI kit around for emergencies, but that's it. If you must use a cleaning rod, then get a one-piece nylon-coated rod.

    Bimmer
    +1 on the GI kit. Not everything "mil-spec" is a good thing. Remember ALICE gear?

    I've also abandoned nylon coated rods. Maybe I've been using them incorrectly, but the coating tends to rub off the tips after a few uses. The threads are not always concentric with the rod. Then, you have is bare steel rubbing against the chamber, throat, and rifling. And because coated rods are usually steel, they have a tendency to bend.

    Tipton carbon fiber rod w/ a bore guide is what I use now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8200rpm View Post
    +1 on the GI kit. Not everything "mil-spec" is a good thing. Remember ALICE gear?

    I've also abandoned nylon coated rods. Maybe I've been using them incorrectly, but the coating tends to rub off the tips after a few uses. The threads are not always concentric with the rod. Then, you have is bare steel rubbing against the chamber, throat, and rifling. And because coated rods are usually steel, they have a tendency to bend.

    Tipton carbon fiber rod w/ a bore guide is what I use now.
    when brushing i pull through rather than push, but obviously switch when jagging. how come nobody's made a rod with a tip narrower than the lip of rod attachments?

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    GI 3 piece rods were good because you could obviously break them down and stow them away. Could you imagine packing a 1 piece coated rod? lol And yes alice gear blew hard. It sucks to lose a gator clip and then have your gear hanging off. I try not to get wrapped around the whole idea with bore guides and rods scratching the barrel. I use them yes but if I didn't have the option I wouldn't be too worried about using GI rods without a bore guide for my AR.

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