knox specops stock,, or speedfeed??

[bullseye]

got a new tactical 870 the other day, was looking to get a "marine", hard to find around here and dealer had a tactical. i decided on the tactical because it had screw-in chokes, and the "marine" did not,,gives me SOME options. i really liked the speedfeed stock on the "marine", told an acquantice i was gonna order one of the speedfeed stocks,, he said get a knox specops instead, with a recoil reducer,, and live happy-ever-after. as i don't know squat, or have no experience whatever with tactical shotguns,,, what say ya'll??? i'm just an old man that lives in the woods, and this gun will not see many rounds thru it, loaded beside my bed, JUST IN CASE. i really wanted a hi-cap shotgun, again,,JUST IN CASE!!! now that i have it, i might as well deluxe it up, gonna put tritium xs sights, and a light on it as well. my thoughts is that i'd be better served with a recoil reducer, than 4 extra shots in the stock. opinions from someone that has more knowledge, and experience that me????

[esskay]

I started with a standard stock on my 870. Switched to a Knoxx, which was comfy to shoot but I've ended up going to a youth Speedfeed short LOP stock.

My reasons:
* I've pretty much switched back from pistol grips to straight stocks for my shotguns. They point more naturally and quickly for me for the type of shooting I'm typically doing with a shotgun.
* I seem to be able to shoot strings faster with it than the Knoxx. Maybe something about how the Knoxx spreads out the recoil impulse slows down my pumping action or makes it a little less crisp?
* KISS

IIRC, some other operators have cited the Knoxx as being less stable and the sliding buttstock assembly being uncomfortable against your face.

In fact, at a recent shotgun class I took, one shooter who was running a Knoxx stock took a patch of skin off his cheek when he was shooting slugs and got his cheek weld a little off...

[Alaskapopo]

I went from the speed feed to the KNox. The Knox is awsome in that it reduced recoil. Also the option shell holder does a better job than does the speed feed shell holders in the stock. The springs went bad pretty fast and it was hard to remove the shells with out both popping out.
Knox is better by far. I shoot Breneke slugs through this gun 90% of the time and my face is intact.

Pat

[cobb]

I had a hard time with the knoxx stock. Slugs and magnum buck shot killed my cheeck. I went with a Houge youth stock. good luck either way.

[esskay]

Pat,
Love that 870! I think you wrote elsewhere that you use your 870 as slug gun for bear/moose. For that purpose, love your setup. Can shoot full power slugs all day long with a Knoxx stock. Also, you can have the additional saddle on the buttstock and not have to worry about support side transitions since your furry adversaries don't shoot back!

So depends a lot on intended purpose for the shotgun. My 870 is setup for home defense, so I have nothing on the buttstock (my youth speedfeed is a plain standard stock) so it is ambidextrous. Just have the side saddle on the receiver. Ghost rings & Surefire foreend. Federal LE reduced recoil buck & slugs. Not really happy with my sling setup, still working on that...

[Alaskapopo]

Pat,
Love that 870! I think you wrote elsewhere that you use your 870 as slug gun for bear/moose. For that purpose, love your setup. Can shoot full power slugs all day long with a Knoxx stock. Also, you can have the additional saddle on the buttstock and not have to worry about support side transitions since your furry adversaries don't shoot back!

So depends a lot on intended purpose for the shotgun. My 870 is setup for home defense, so I have nothing on the butt stock (my youth speedfeed is a plain standard stock) so it is ambidextrous. Just have the side saddle on the receiver. Ghost rings & Surefire fore end. Federal LE reduced recoil buck & slugs. Not really happy with my sling setup, still working on that...

Thanks. I set this 870 up when I first started as a cop. My chief at the time did not allow rifles. So I wanted the best shotgun I could find. I had seen Vangs before and knew they were good so I sent him an 870 and he worked his magic. Then I had him send it to Robar. I was glad I had the additional side saddle last summer. I had to kill two bears. The first one was just a cub. I got dispatched to a call stating some bears were chasing kids in a neighbor hood. I show up and there are 3 bears. I use shell crackers to try and scare them off. the little one gets disoriented and charged me. I shot 2 slugs into him and it dropped him. But he was still alive. I put 2 more into him on the ground and then reloaded and walked up closer and put 2 in its head. There were kids and people around and I had a good back stop so I wanted to make sure it was dead. I reloaded again and relized there were still 2 bears in the woods near by. I called for back up and waited for the chairity to come and take the bear I shot.


Second bear was bigger about 250 pounds. Anyway it had broken into a woman's home. When I arrived it was coming out of a apartment building laundry room. I was told by Fish and Game earlier to kill the bear if possible. I waited until I had a good safe back stop behind the bear and then I shot it once in the chest and it turned away from me to run. I shot it twice more in the back as it ran. It was hurt and moving very slow. I did not want it getting away from me and out of the range of my back stop so I reloaded as I ran up behind it and it spun around then started spinning in circles biting at its chest. I could not get a head shot so I shot it 3 more times quickly in the middle of the black blur. It dropped and I shot it twice in the head just to make sure. I have a healthy respect for what bears can do to a person. Anyway it was nice to be able to full reload my gun after each shooting and have some rounds left on the side saddle. I was teased about the over kill but frankly I did not want the bear to get away wounded and hurt someone. All my shots hit the bear where I was aiming. Training does take over.
pat

[esskay]

Well, that'll sure get the blood pumping! Nice work.

Noticed your receiver sling mount, which one is it? What kind of sling setup do you run?

[Alaskapopo]

Well, that'll sure get the blood pumping! Nice work.

Noticed your receiver sling mount, which one is it? What kind of sling setup do you run?

GG&G sling mount and I run a standard single point sling with a clip. I use the same sling on my rifle and my shotgun.
Pat

[esskay]

GG&G sling mount and I run a standard single point sling with a clip. I use the same sling on my rifle and my shotgun.
Pat

Hmm, I may have to try that mount. I tried running my Magpul MS2 sling on my Daniel Defense 870 sling mount, which was serviceable but not great since the DD is not designed for that purpose. The GG&G looks like it might work better.

[Mega]

My Mossberg 590 Marine wears a Knoxx recoil reducing stock. I love the way it shoots.



I had it to the range this past Saturday shooting slugs at a 25 yard target.
No issues whatsoever.