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    I got the red dot dead center at 25 yrds and 1 inch at 50 yards.

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    I am old school and was taught to master the iron sights first and then the optic. If your optic takes a shit guess what you will be using next? Iron sights.

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    I do it the opposite. Zero the optic first then the Irons. The Irons are back ups only needed if the optic fails. The optic is the primary sight that will be used first. The irons need to be zeroed however. And you should practice with them from time to time to stay familiar in the very unlikely event your optics fail.
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    If you're moving the front sight post up and down and it isn't making a difference in where your rounds go, you do not have a consistent sight picture. You need to work on that. Today, 2 clicks of my Troy front sight gave me almost 1.25" of movement at 25 yards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I am old school and was taught to master the iron sights first and then the optic. If your optic takes a shit guess what you will be using next? Iron sights.
    I started on Irons too about 12 years ago as well. But they are obsolete now compared with Optics. I agree you should know how to use them but they are a secondary sight. What you are saying makes as much sense to me as driving your car around with the donut spare because you might have to some day when you get a flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    I started on Irons too about 12 years ago as well. But they are obsolete now compared with Optics. I agree you should know how to use them but they are a secondary sight. What you are saying makes as much sense to me as driving your car around with the donut spare because you might have to some day when you get a flat.
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    This may be, but I damned sure want my irons to be sighted in better than "on paper" at 25 yards.

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    Everyone has opinions, that's what makes this a great place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    I started on Irons too about 12 years ago as well. But they are obsolete now compared with Optics. I agree you should know how to use them but they are a secondary sight. What you are saying makes as much sense to me as driving your car around with the donut spare because you might have to some day when you get a flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamsammich View Post
    This may be, but I damned sure want my irons to be sighted in better than "on paper" at 25 yards.
    I agree and I also make my guys qualify with their Irons as well. Actually I sight my irons on at 50 yards. Same for my red dots. I sight the scopes in at 100. I guess I have a little more faith in my optics than you guys. I would never run a rifle without back up irons.
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    With the amount of EoHells I have seen fail over here I have little faith in optics, even the good ones. Anything man made can fail. I also would never run a rifle without iron sights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    I agree and I also make my guys qualify with their Irons as well. Actually I sight my irons on at 50 yards. Same for my red dots. I sight the scopes in at 100. I guess I have a little more faith in my optics than you guys. I would never run a rifle without back up irons.
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    At this point it seems as if there is something wrong with his BUIS or the manner with which he uses his irons that really should be resolved before he goes to a RDS as a primary. Just my opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    With the amount of EoHells I have seen fail over here I have little faith in optics, even the good ones. Anything man made can fail. I also would never run a rifle without iron sights.
    I can understand with Eotechs although I was lucky and mine ran. I now run an AImpoint. The battery lasts 8 years and its bullet proof. I have seen Irons fail too. Once during a qualification one of my officers got snow in the aperture and could not see the target causing him to have 2 over time shots by the time he got it fixed.
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