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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider79 View Post
    If those are your answers, then why do you want such a long rail? I have a DD lite 12 with a lo pro block on a BCM midlength upper, and its heavy as shit compared to my 2 BCM midlengths with 9.0 Omegas. Its just my opinion though.



    Again, just my opinion, but the FDE Omega would look pretty cool with that finish, it seems.

    http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=s...product_id=116

    (The 7.0 carbine length, they didn't have a pic of the 9.0 in FDE)

    Yeah, I looked at both the troy and DD, in the FDE finish. I like it, but I don't like the delta ring being on there with the DD omega. Not sure why it bugs me so much, but it does.

    That said, I just hate to take a $200 to $300 gamble on color. Without having one on hand somehwere to actually compare side by side with my receiver color, I'm not sure it would match. My receiver, because it's anodized, tends to change colors quite a bit depending on lighting. In a camera flash, it looks gold or bronze, in real life it looks a little like FDE and tan/olive mixed, and in the picture above it looks FDE.


    But with regards to the length and weight comments, I don't know that I want to go with a longer rail. That was the reason for posting this and with the factors I could think of. If the FSB won't be in the way regardless of the two optics i mentioned, then a mid length rail shouldn't be an issue and would be easier too.

    Anyone know a way to get a color sample of the Troy and DD Omega rails? At least a real representative color sample? I'm not a big fan of having 3 to 5 different shades of FDE on my rifles.

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    I understand you on the color. Just so you know, the Troy FDE is much lighter than the DD. The DD is milspec III hard anodized, so the FDE comes out much darker. Kinda like poop. The midlength I have mine on has a Vltor Emod, Magpul MOE grip, and TangoDown VFG on it, all in matching FDE, and the Omega rail is darker. I don't mind it, I like the contrast. There was a thread on here with pretty good photos of the DD FDE, if you search you'll probably find it. I hope that helps. If the colors matched exactly, I think that would be a badass combo, but its your gun, and at the end of the day all that matters is that you're happy with it.





    Oh yeah, and ROADKING, wtf?

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    Usualy with most rails if you go with an aimpoint they stick up a mile high from the reciever to get the right co-witness, with the VLTOR CASV system it can still sit low and still get the 1/3 co-witness so the sight doesnt look like a satalite dish sticking up like most do.

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    [QUOTE=Rider79;351836]I understand you on the color. Just so you know, the Troy FDE is much lighter than the DD. The DD is milspec III hard anodized, so the FDE comes out much darker. Kinda like poop. The midlength I have mine on has a Vltor Emod, Magpul MOE grip, and TangoDown VFG on it, all in matching FDE, and the Omega rail is darker. I don't mind it, I like the contrast. There was a thread on here with pretty good photos of the DD FDE, if you search you'll probably find it. I hope that helps. If the colors matched exactly, I think that would be a badass combo, but its your gun, and at the end of the day all that matters is that you're happy with it.
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    How resistant is the DD omega to rotation? The info on the design of the Troy is what finally sold me, as it seems to really lock itself down to the receiver, and then has tabs to surround the receiver to prevent rotation. I can't really tell how the DD does it other than it grabs the outer edge of the barrel nut, and then has 4 set screws. Do those set screws go into the cogs of the barrel nut, or just tighten up against the surface or something?


    Regarding color, if I could get a perfect match, I'd be all over it. I contacted Spikes Tactical, to see if they could do an anodized forend for me to match their receivers. They indicated these were part of a special run and were anodized by the machine shop that forged them or something like that. The color is part of a hard coat anodizing process and would be hard to duplicate for a single item supposedly since these were a special run batch.

    But, I think a darker FDE item has a better chance of matching than a lighter one, so I'll compound matters again and put the DD Omega back on the list.






    As it stands right now, I think I've decided to stick with the Mid Lenght rail and keep my FSB in place. I think I'm leaning towards a 1-4 optic like an accupoint or IOR or something. I like the IOR reticule.

    A matching Forend with black ladders, black stock and black grip would look nice with my receivers I think. Hmmmmmm...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROADKING View Post
    Usualy with most rails if you go with an aimpoint they stick up a mile high from the reciever to get the right co-witness, with the VLTOR CASV system it can still sit low and still get the 1/3 co-witness so the sight doesnt look like a satalite dish sticking up like most do.
    Ah, I see what you are saying now.

    Yeah, I just don't like that VLTOR setup. Not knocking it, just don't like the looks and stuff. Sorry dude, but if it works for you that is all that maters. I'm just stuborn sometimes too, so that could be it also.

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    Then you might as well get whatever rail you can because there all about the same, troy, yhm,..............they all have rails and look about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROADKING View Post
    Usualy with most rails if you go with an aimpoint they stick up a mile high from the reciever to get the right co-witness, with the VLTOR CASV system it can still sit low and still get the 1/3 co-witness so the sight doesnt look like a satalite dish sticking up like most do.
    Still don't see your point, but if that's how you feel, fine by me. Never really been an issue for me.

    tx, no problems for me on rotation, once its mounted, its locked in tight. I haven't gone to war with it, but I've run it through some drills, it holds up well, and I like it.

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    "How resistant is the DD omega to rotation? The info on the design of the Troy is what finally sold me, as it seems to really lock itself down to the receiver, and then has tabs to surround the receiver to prevent rotation. I can't really tell how the DD does it other than it grabs the outer edge of the barrel nut, and then has 4 set screws. Do those set screws go into the cogs of the barrel nut, or just tighten up against the surface or something?

    A matching Forend with black ladders, black stock and black grip would look nice with my receivers I think. Hmmmmmm..........."

    They go against the side of the barrel nut, I believe. Then you have 2 screws on each side to lock the halves together. As for the Troy, if your receiver (or the rail) is out of spec (as was the RRA I had it on) you're going to have to cut those tabs off, which is what I had to do.

    If that's the color scheme you're thinking of, go with the Omega.
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    Decision Made

    A decision has been made. I'll update the thread in a few days once I get the new rail and install it by posting a picture.



    Thanks.

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    I think you'll be happy with the Troy. I have tried most systems and prefer the Troy to all. I, also don't like the delta ring still on the rifle. The DD FDE is very dark. Not an issue for me but just telling you. I'm not sure there is a tighter lock up for a 2 piece. As far as length, if you are using a RDS or even low powered magnifying optics the front sight is not an issue. I've even had a NightForce 2.5-10 on a rifle with a front sigth and it just wasn't an issue. I have both types. I prefer a fixed front sight base but have about half and half. Just the way some people build them. On my own builds I put a fixed front sight. With a middie you'll have more than enough length without loosing the FSB. It'd really simply a matter of what you like.
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