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    I am not going to put a Honda engine in my Porsche just because I want more m.p.g
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    ok here's my .02 I see benefits with both designs. I just put an LWRC M6A2 on layaway as someone mentiones earlier LWRC and LMT seem to be the best examples of the piston breed. I am aware of the carrier tilt issue but I also researched the customer service of LWRC incase this becomes an issue and am told they really stand behind their products. That being said I plan on making the LWRC into an SBR later, which in my opinion will bring the piston benefits to bear. But DI guns have proven themselves reliable if treated correctly, I've carried M4 / M16 platform in every conceivable environment over my 15 years in the Army and have never had an issue but I am a OCD cleaner of all my guns.

    I think both have merit but it depends on what your needs are Money can be a factor my Colt 6721 was $1500 the LWRC M6A2 is $2500, thats a lot of money to sink into goodies, optics etc.

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    I am just curious what has LWRC done for the bolt carrier tilt issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas M-4 View Post
    I am just curious what has LWRC done for the bolt carrier tilt issue?
    I really don't know, in my reading on the subject it seems to be a problem that is not present in all carbines. Some LWRC ownes say they have fired thousands of rounds with no visible signes of tilt. Some say they have had tilt signs show after a few hundred rounds. I am a bit puzzled on it my self, I just hope mine is gtg. We'll see I guess.

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    Isn't threre a guy on this forum whose made a buffer to address the tilt issue? I think he's trying to tool up to sell them if I recall correctly. Anybody?
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    Lightbulb

    Having owned AR's for 18 years now (PWA, Colt, Olympic, DoubleStar & S&W), I took the plunge LAST year, and bought my first piston gun - a POF-415. Because I was already QUITE familiar with the platform through several different makes, I knew what I was looking for in a piston gun, quality wise.

    It may just be, that it's the highest QUALITY firearm I've ever owned, but I LOVE my POF. It's accuracy is due to the quality of parts in it, though - NOT because it's piston-driven.

    A marksman can make a GOOD rifle in either configuration DO what he needs it to do. And a GOOD QUALITY gas rifle, will perform better than a poor quality piston rifle.

    As others have suggested, I'd get a GOOD gas gun first - learn the eccentricities of the breed, as it were - and then see if you still need or even WANT a piston gun thereafter. Even if money is no object, and you're worried about the OBAMANATION'S forthcoming bans , and you want to get one of each, I'd still set the piston rifle aside, until the gas rifle was mastered.

    My $.02, as an owner of both.
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    Why not have both?

    Get a LMT MRP piston. Then get a MRP DI gas barrel for $300. Add a BCG if you don't have one already. Change the piston to a gas system in 2 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotdown View Post
    The "carrier tilt" problem has kept me from going the piston route for now. I've seen some people post pics of the damage done to the BCG because of it.

    I'm curious about this issue. I hear a lot about carrier tilt, but I've never heard of a failure or stoppage supposedly caused by it.

    Pat Rogers beat the heck out a few LWRC M6's... maybe he can chime in and comment on if "carrier tilt" was problem?

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    Gas.

    I wanted to like the piston systems, but after shooting one for two days at a Rogers class, I was completely underwhelmed.

    The AR DI system functions just fine if you keep it lubed.
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