12 Gauge Buckshot and Slugs...

[Glock17JHP]

The reduced recoil 9-pellet load is outstanding. The full power 9-pellet loads exhibit a donut pattern at 20+ yds from my 870P.



And why not?

For LE I understand wanting a tight pattern...

For HD, I want a more open pattern. The load I prefer is a 12 pellet 00 Buck load that is about 100 FPS slower than typical 9 pellet loads... and patterns at 2, 4, 7, 11 and 15 inches at 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 feet. I expect the distance in a HD scenario to be less than 30 feet for sure. And all 12 pellets will reach the 12 inch penetration depth easily...

[WS6]

For LE I understand wanting a tight pattern...

For HD, I want a more open pattern. The load I prefer is a 12 pellet 00 Buck load that is about 100 FPS slower than typical 9 pellet loads... and patterns at 2, 4, 7, 11 and 15 inches at 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 feet. I expect the distance in a HD scenario to be less than 30 feet for sure. And all 12 pellets will reach the 12 inch penetration depth easily...

Sounds like you are running the same stuff I run, Supreme XX Magnum. At 25 yards it will put 70-90% of all the pellets in a 12" circle with my M4 and MOD choke. Anything past that and I want a slug.

[Glock17JHP]

I think you may be right...

The load I prefer for HD at this point is:

Winchester Supreme XX Magnum Buckshot
12-pellet 00 Buck
Load# X12XCOB5
Velocity: 1,295

[WS6]

I think you may be right...

The load I prefer for HD at this point is:

Winchester Supreme XX Magnum Buckshot
12-pellet 00 Buck
Load# X12XCOB5
Velocity: 1,295

One and the same.

[Thomas M-4]

Hornady tap 00 buck 2'' 3/4 in the tube and Remington 1oz foster slugs nearby.

[Storydude]

What I'm currently loading

9 #0 buck 50/50 WW/dead soft lead and waterdropped Avg. 494Grain total weight ~22Bhn
Fiocchi clear low-brass hull
12s3 Federal Clone wad
Win209
24G Unique

Recoil is about that of a 1 1/8 field load, no clue on Velocity yet...But I'll know tomorrow.

Patterns forthcoming.

[WS6]

What I'm currently loading

9 #0 buck 50/50 WW/dead soft lead and waterdropped Avg. 494Grain total weight ~22Bhn
Fiocchi clear low-brass hull
12s3 Federal Clone wad
Win209
24G Unique

Recoil is about that of a 1 1/8 field load, no clue on Velocity yet...But I'll know tomorrow.

Patterns forthcoming.

Sounds about like you have re-created the Win-lite low-recoil buckshot load from how you describe the way it recoils. I am curious as to how it patterns.

[Glock17JHP]

Hornady tap 00 buck 2'' 3/4 in the tube and Remington 1oz foster slugs nearby.

I used to have (7) 12 pellet Supreme 00 Buck in the mag tube (empty chamber), and some Brenneke slugs nearby... but I have recently re-evaluated whether or not I actually need to worry about having the slugs at all. I am thinking buckshot only for HD...

I have the pictures I promised earlier, just need to carve out time to put them on this thread... they are coming...

[Storydude]

Sounds about like you have re-created the Win-lite low-recoil buckshot load from how you describe the way it recoils. I am curious as to how it patterns.

No joy on getting to the range today for patterns, but I'll post the results once I get there

[Glock17JHP]

Here is a picture of the 7.8 inch pattern I got shooting the Winchester Supreme XX 00 Buck 12 pellet load through my
Winchester Defender (18 inch cylinder bore 12 gauge) at 30 feet...
I aimed at the center of the target, so this load hits about 3 inches high in my weapon at that distance...



The shotgun...



And the load...