DNTC Agressive Comp On Tactical Carbine?

[Mr.Goodtimes]

Im lookin to get some more recoil reduction out of my m4. Its first and foremost use is as a home defense gun. Ive gotten to where i can squeeze of some pretty fast and accurate follow up shots (strings of 2 to 3 rds).

I would like to be able to pick the pace up though, as i can see where, in a defensive situation, the more rounds i can get out accurately, the better. After watching the magpul videos, it looks like chris costas gun with an NT4 muzzle break seems to no muzzle climb and very very little recoil at all.

While i would really like to get an NT4 break like Mr. Costa has, those seem to be made of unobtanium, so im thinkin of settling for a DNTC.

My big question is though, will the flash from this device be enough to blind me/obscure my sight picture in a dark house at night?

Would i be better off going with something like the FSC series?

Does the FSC series offer the same ammount of recoil reduction as the DNTC or is there a bit of a trade off?

Cheers,

Ryan

[Robb Jensen]

Im lookin to get some more recoil reduction out of my m4. Its first and foremost use is as a home defense gun. Ive gotten to where i can squeeze of some pretty fast and accurate follow up shots (strings of 2 to 3 rds).

I would like to be able to pick the pace up though, as i can see where, in a defensive situation, the more rounds i can get out accurately, the better. After watching the magpul videos, it looks like chris costas gun with an NT4 muzzle break seems to no muzzle climb and very very little recoil at all.

While i would really like to get an NT4 break like Mr. Costa has, those seem to be made of unobtanium, so im thinkin of settling for a DNTC.

My big question is though, will the flash from this device be enough to blind me/obscure my sight picture in a dark house at night?

Would i be better off going with something like the FSC series?

Does the FSC series offer the same ammount of recoil reduction as the DNTC or is there a bit of a trade off?

Cheers,

Ryan

The DNTC and the FSC556 comp the same, the FSC556 has virtually zero flash where the DNTC sometimes increases the flash.

Here's a pic of me shooting Guatamalan ammo through a 16" barrel with a DNTC.




2nd one is same setup but with XM193.

[Mr.Goodtimes]

WOW!!! That Guatamalan stuff makes a huge flash!

Im assuming that since you used the same break for both rounds, the guatamalan stuff does not use a flash supressed powder, where as the m193 does?

It would seem that, the FSC series may be the way to go if they both have the same recoil reducing abilities.

[ballistic]

Winchester Q131A out of my DNTC Aggressive comp. 16" Midlength barrel. I haven't shot it at night/low light yet so I can't comment on any effects that would have on night vision. While the flash was obviously captured in this photo and other shooters on the line commented they could occasionally see a ball of flame, I never saw it from behind the gun.

[Mr.Goodtimes]

i really like the looks of the agressive comp, and it looks like it could do some serious damage in the case your weapon goes "click" and not "bang"

[Magsz]

A better question would be, do you want to run a rifle in the confines of your house?

Use a pistol...

Having given my opinion that was not asked for i will comment on the original question. Ive run an FSC556 brake at night and i had no issues being blinded or having my vision obscured. I will however say that the people shooting next to me were commenting on how there were sparks shooting everywhere out of the barrel of my gun. No fireballs, just sparks.

Ive also shot a DNTC comp at night with no flashlight and it was less than ideal. I did find the ball of fire that erupted from the end of my barrel a bit distracting and it would wash out my T1's red dot. I wouldnt really recommend one for serious home defense use since if you cant see, recoil reduction matters not for follow up shots.

[Mr.Goodtimes]

thanks magz. i would prefer the use of the rifle as, my house is pretty big and its not hard to move around with the carbine at all. Also, my beretta doesn't have a light mounted on it, my AR does.

[Mr.Goodtimes]

would the FSC 556 along with an H2 buffer produce negligible recoil? also, would the H2 be safe to use in a 16in barrel with carbine length gas system? it seems to work for some and not for others.

[Charles]

Go with the FSC. On an M4 the dot won't come out of the head at 50yds.

Having said that- what is your current skill level? Do you know what your times for clean runs on the 2+2+2 and D-drill are?

[Mr.Goodtimes]

Im not really sure what those drills are to tbh.

What i typically do at the range is practice giving each target two shots to the chest and one to the head, or all three to the chest. sometimes three to the chest, one to the head. i practice this on a human silhouette at 25m.

The other thing i like to do is shoot at a target at 25 yards that has 5 four inch circles on it. I practice putting three shots down range as fast as i can into each four inch circle. I have no problems keeping all the rounds within each cicle, putting all three down range in about 1.5 seconds ( i havent actually timed anything but id say this is about right, it feels pretty quick).

Im not to concerned about my skill level... these modifications would be to enhance my skill... not replace. Ive been shooting my AR for about half a year now... prior to the AR i grew up shooting other firearms, mainly an m1 carbine.