My mid-length is done!

[AR-15A3]

Nice remodel job.

Nothing is ever done, I thought my middy build was done Dec. '05 but last fall I replaced my BUIS with Troy FDE and sling with Blue Force Gear IDF style with QR sling swivels.

Mine is similar to yours except mine is with tan furniture, Denny's Guns Operator Rock Creek medium contour barrel, TD VFG, MIAD grip, Aimpoint and Surefire M961C.

[Robb Jensen]

Looks good man. I like the Forest Green as well. Here's my 10.3" LMT SBR in Forest Green.

[MaceWindu]

-Removed the vertical foregrip

Can someone answer me as to why the VFG's are being removed?


Mace

[USMC03]

Can someone answer me as to why the VFG's are being removed?


Mace

I don't know why anyone else is doing it...... but here is my reply to the same question from another board a couple months ago:

Did you dump your Vertical Fore Grip for the shoot (match) or altogether now Jeff?

Xxxxx,


After much trial and error, I have come to the following conclusion: -Guns that I do a lot of CQB work with I prefer the vertical foregrip. The vertical foregrip helps me "drive" the gun on closer targets, is more ergonomical for accessing a weapon mounted light, gives more power on muzzle strikes and weapon retention, etc.

On guns that I do a lot of *long range shooting* with, I prefer NO vertical foregrip, because I can steady the gun much better on longer shots without the vertical foregrip. The lack of a vertical foregrip also helps me drive and stop the gun better when transitioning from one target to another at longer distances, and has an advantage on barricades, etc. The rifle match has 75%+ of the targets placed from 100 yards - 425 yards.

Something that I noticed when using a vertical foregrip and long range targets....when I would transition from one target to another, I would always pass the target I was transitioning to and have to come back to it (ie. I would "over shoot" or by pass the target).

I don't know why, but on close targets I can drive the gun and stop on a dime at close distances....but at long range targets, I would always pass the target and have to come back to it.

Without a vertical foregrip, I can stop on a dime when transitioning from one target to another at longer distances. Without a vertical foregrip, I wrap my hand round the forend and point my index finger in the same direction as the muzzle (index finger is pointing forward along the 9 o'clock rail) Example: demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/PRM-2006.11/?small=D100_5707_img.jpg

On my guns that have ACOG's, Leupold MR/T M2's, (guns set up for medium to long range shooting) I have removed the vertical foregrips and run just the LaRue handguard and Tango Down pannels.

On my guns with Aimpoints / Short Dots (work guns or guns set up for close to medium range shooting), I still run the vertical foregrips.


Distance = time. Time affords you the ability to get into more stable positions (ie. sitting, prone, braced kneeling, the use of barricades, etc, etc.) In these position a vertical foregrip has no advantage, and can often get in the way. When most of your shots are closer and you are in the standing position or on the move, this is the area where the vertical foregrip shines. I guess it's all about selecting the right tool for the job. Just my opinion based on my personal experiences, as with all things, your milage may vary. []







Semper Fi,
Jeff

[molsen]

Can someone answer me as to why the VFG's are being removed?


Mace

Because Larry Vickers does, and if he does it, why shouldn't you?

[Hawkeye]

I've never been a big fan of vertical foregrips. Just never felt right to me. Didnt feel bad mind you, just not right.

[mark5pt56]

Looks good Bub! Nice and clean, pure business. I prefer the ladder panels on mine.

[Yojimbo]

Looks grat and I'm sure it shoots great too! Welcome to the Sabre Mid-Length Club!

[Dport]

I've never been a big fan of vertical foregrips. Just never felt right to me. Didnt feel bad mind you, just not right.

I'm not either. So far it's been a decision between a magwell hold and something on the handguards.

[mark5pt56]

Can someone answer me as to why the VFG's are being removed?


Mace

I think it's for no other reason than the user decided that he simply doesn't feel the need for it or likes the plain forend better.