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    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/LCPRecall/index.html
    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/SR9Recall/index.html

    There is some Ruger bashing that is deserved, but the SR-556 is so new there has not been enough time to judge it either way. It needs several months and several thousand rifles sold before any meaningful reliability data can be obtained.

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    My main concern about the Ruger rifle is the apparent ripping off without attributation or compensation of the ADC design.
    My brother saw Deliverance and bought a Bow. I saw Deliverance and bought an AR-15.

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    If Ruger stuck to 10/22s and single action revolvers, I'd be happy. Talk about jumping on the F'ing bandwagon. Holy crap. Remington, Ruger... FN might's well make one and stamp Winchester on it. Browning could probably make one that nobody would buy, but it would be nice and shiny. WTF. It doesn't even make sense anymore. You can't make shit look like ice cream. Take the handful of manufacturers putting out quality rifles, and call them AR-15s. Call the rest something else, like "sport utility rifles".

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    An M4 is nothing more than a collection of parts, assembling them isn't rocket science. A collection of parts, like a transmission; Hydramatic Division of G.M., anyone? They seemed to turn out an AR with no prior experience and in mass quantities too, just as Remington-Rand a typewriter company turned out perfectly serviceable M1911A1's in mass quantities a long time ago. Although I am not a huge fan of Ruger's auto pistols I'd like to see what they can do for the AR platform, a little new blood is welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post
    An M4 is nothing more than a collection of parts, assembling them isn't rocket science. A collection of parts, like a transmission; Hydramatic Division of G.M., anyone? They seemed to turn out an AR with no prior experience and in mass quantities too, just as Remington-Rand a typewriter company turned out perfectly serviceable M1911A1's in mass quantities a long time ago. Although I am not a huge fan of Ruger's auto pistols I'd like to see what they can do for the AR platform, a little new blood is welcome.
    But there is a difference. What is servicable for one may not be for another. We see that in the market today. Ruger is going to go against other, cheaper, offerings. Will they offer a product made of top quality parts or will they cut some corners that they think most customers won't notice to get the price down and profit up? That's the question.

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    Kind of premature to comdemn it then until it has made its way into the hands of the masses, you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    The heavier barrel can't have its cake and eat it too...
    Yes, it has a larger surface area. Yes, larger surface area dissipates heat quicker. But as stated by other posters before me, the volume has increased at a much greater rate than the surface area. So the added cooling effect of the surface area is more than offset by the heat retention of the volume.
    Um, no.

    Yes, it is true that the heavy barrel will take longer to heat up, you are correct about that. But you are contradicting yourself by saying it will also cool down faster. Think about the thermodynamics of what you are suggesting.
    No, it's relative to the thinner barrel, not to itself.

    Two objects of the same material and density but with different masses and shapes. You are suggesting that A can heat up slower than B, but then cool down faster than B. That just doesn't work out in that context. It will take more time to heat up, but then it will retain the heat longer.
    No, not at all. The same amount of heat is being transferred to two objects of different mass, all other thermal properties the same. The larger mass will _NOT_ reach the same temperature as the lower mass object, it will be lower -- that's thermodynamics. And it's ability to dissipate the heat to the air is increased by its surface area.

    If you don't believe me, take some pans out of your cupboard and put them on your range. Assuming your pans are like mine, the large ones will be a bit thicker. So again, we have the same materials, but one has both larger volume (thickness) and surface area (size). Now heat them both at a constant rate. The larger pan will take longer to heat (like you say). Turn off the range and let them air cool. I guarantee you that the smaller one will cool off faster, despite the fact that it has less surface area.
    You're right, I don't believe you. The problem here is that your thought experiment actually supports my position. The ratio of mass to surface area is critical in this "experiment", as well as a few other properties like the specific heat of the materials involved.

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    Good lord!

    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    I believe these are the ones being referenced:

    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/LCPRecall/
    http://www.ruger-firearms.com/SR9Recall/

    But there may be others of which I am not aware
    Wow! Jesus! How in the holy hell could I have missed that... oh.... wait.... it's a revolver and a pistol? Not a piston AR called SR-556? Well, never mind then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post
    Kind of premature to comdemn it then until it has made its way into the hands of the masses, you think?
    My opinion comes from someone that has looked over this weapon (and is one of the best engineers in the firearms industry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogoodnamesleft View Post
    The larger mass will _NOT_ reach the same temperature as the lower mass object, it will be lower -- that's thermodynamics.
    I'm looking back at my post and I don't see any sentence where I say that they will reach the same temperature. I agree that they will not reach the same temperature.

    Quote Originally Posted by nogoodnamesleft View Post
    Wow! Jesus! How in the holy hell could I have missed that... oh.... wait.... it's a revolver and a pistol? Not a piston AR called SR-556? Well, never mind then.
    Dude, I don't know why you're getting shitty about it. You asked for links to recall notices that someone made reference to. You didn't bother looking on Ruger's homepage where they have the two recall notices right up front so I answered your question with links to the two notices.

    No one is saying they've had an AR recall. I think it's a case of "once bitten, twice shy" though. Two major recalls on two of their most recent offerings makes people understandably leery about another new offering. I think the same would probably be true of any company, making any product, who had two major recalls within a short frame of time on new products.



    As for people getting upset at Ruger for wanting to bring an AR to market: I think it is a positive political move for us in the long term. The more major manufacturers who are making black rifles, the better. In that regard, I sincerely hope that Ruger is successful in this endeavor.

    Personally, for that money, I would rather just purchase the LMT Piston. Still, I wish Ruger the utmost success nonetheless and cannot critique this gun specifically without ever handling it.

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