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    The old man died... changing of hats. Ruger "should" head back i the right direction now. "Top Tier" (whatever that means) maybe not, but a fairly solid firearm to start with. Hell, I don't even have a dog in this hunt. Sure I find the developments interesting, but I have no immediate plans to by the 556.


    I didn't touch on the politics of his post... hooray for repealing the machine bun ban, but institute more "checks"? Not good business. I'm now in Gov't. I can tell you, the ONLY thing "gun" legislation does is slow the possession of fire arms to the law abiding citizens. The vast majority of firearms used in really bad crimes ARE NOT registered!
    Remember, the Founding Fathers reason for the 2nd Amendment... to combat tyranny. Sadly, when people discuss the 2nd Amendment, the opponents erroneously think it was meant to stand alone... it HAS a preamble:

    "...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    Another near illiterate rambling diatribe...... If you'd read the damned thread instead of telling us about a bunch of unrelated crap, you'd see what folks don't like about the Ruger, mudskunk.
    Ouch, true... back on topic... shame on me too.
    Remember, the Founding Fathers reason for the 2nd Amendment... to combat tyranny. Sadly, when people discuss the 2nd Amendment, the opponents erroneously think it was meant to stand alone... it HAS a preamble:

    "...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."

    — John Hancock

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    Angry HACKLES

    Quote Originally Posted by El Mac View Post
    There is a lot wrong with your post, starting with your inability to type correctly and not capitalize the first word of a sentence...regardless, that quote is so far off the mark as to be incredible. Spoken like a true Leftist. Perhaps a Brady troll/shill?


    This is just the kind of negativeness that has no point and pisses people off.

    WHY? WHY? WHY? does it have to be here.

    The boards should be about, thought provoking oppinions, facts, the ability to gather knowledge - take it if you want it - disregard it if you don't.

    Who has the best toys and put down the other guy and hurt feelings just distorts and distract from the purpose of the boards.

    Everyone should be allowed to express their oppinions of guns, not peoples oppinions of others.

    I am not sure I have said this correctly? I would just like to see more facts and oppinions from people without them having to worry about being put down for it!

    Tom

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    P.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by tombirdman View Post


    This is just the kind of negativeness that has no point and pisses people off.

    WHY? WHY? WHY? does it have to be here.

    The boards should be about, thought provoking oppinions, facts, the ability to gather knowledge - take it if you want it - disregard it if you don't.

    Who has the best toys and put down the other guy and hurt feelings just distorts and distract from the purpose of the boards.

    Everyone should be allowed to express their oppinions of guns, not peoples oppinions of others.

    I am not sure I have said this correctly? I would just like to see more facts and oppinions from people without them having to worry about being put down for it!

    Tom

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    P.S. So what if his grammer is not what you want it to be?

    What does that have to do with anything! Deffinitely a put-down for no reason except to piss him off ! Does it raise your status to put someone else down for nothing other than caps or spelling?

    Tom


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    That wasn't too nice, but then again he was right, it was a bit of a ramble...whatever, move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilgrim View Post
    That is the impression I get as well. Earlier this year a certain member here said something about the Swiss not being in a shooting war for so long they don't even know what a 'combat' weapon should be.
    Nah...maybe recently, but awhile ago (~10-15 years?) they were excellent. SIG P210, P228, K31 etc....

    My K31 is okay, the rear sights don't have windage on them, but it's still Swiss quality minus a few things. My 228 is great.

    I'd just concur that SIG's ice scupture has been melting since the mid 90's. I know someone that has a SIG 556, I'll try it someday and see how it compares to my former AR.

    I heard a comment once, not sure where it came from, but basically with Ruger coming out with the SR556, aren't they basically admitting their Mini14 is a POS?

    RE: DI and piston guns...all the talk recently on gun boards has been 1) DI sucks and piston is better and 2) the AR15 still sucks, even if it has a piston. I never had a single problem with my DI gun, and if I was designing the -proper- carbine, it would be direct impingement with a bolt and carrier similar to the AR. Although cleaning out the barrel locking lugs and recess is a PIA...

    What's funny about DI vs. Piston arguments, is at least 90% of the twitheads talking won't even stress the gun hard enough to even need a piston, and even then for what it is worth, piston guns in normal situations (sans suppressor and heavy FA use) hardly do any better than DI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    You would be well served to take anything you read in 99% of the gun rags with a grain of salt.
    tsk tsk...word they're good for the pictures, but not much else.

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    I don't think the mini-14 is a POS it's a good solid rifle that can be sold were the AR-15 platform (Black Rifle) can not be sold. Now Ruger is in both markets.

    My Mini-14 (181) has been in my gun safe since I bought it new in the 70's.

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    I got my SR556 for $1394 (cash price). Thats a great price for this quality firearm. Look around for a good deal.
    Last edited by goretro77; 12-19-09 at 07:56.

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    I heard a comment once, not sure where it came from, but basically with Ruger coming out with the SR556, aren't they basically admitting their Mini14 is a POS?
    Nope. Frankly Ruger has more experience than most of the companies building piston guns. Just a new model, that will have all the fanboys and MallNinja's pissing their pants.

    I haven't liked the DI rifle since they were first issued to us line units in Vietnam in 1967. Today it has evolved to a rifle with ONLY a weak bolt & extractor, exacerbated by the heat of Gas impingement. Being dirty is only a problem to folks who don't clean their weapons. If it is a toy, no worries, if it a fighting weapon CLEAN IT.

    What's funny about DI vs. Piston arguments, is at least 90% of the twitheads talking won't even stress the gun hard enough to even need a piston, and even then for what it is worth, piston guns in normal situations (sans suppressor and heavy FA use) hardly do any better than DI
    Most folks don't Need a combat rifle as such either. Most would be better off with a Lever action 30-30 or 357/44. But that don't mean beans either.

    I extensive combat experience with both types. I don't own a Gas impinged system. Never saw a properly maintained piston rifle cause it's user to get wounded or dead. I have seen a bunch of casualties Directly caused by properly maintained, gas impinged systems.

    You have your standards I have mine. But most folks get the rifle that WILL do what they need done. That is as it should be.

    Besides I am waiting right now to sight in and then break in, my Brand New FN SCAR. I know, what does FN know about piston guns right??? Yea.

    Go figure.

    Fred
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    “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality” - Ayn Rand

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    Yeah, those DI guns sure do suck.

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    its a nice out of the box rifle if someone doesnt want to build. My qualms with it were the heavy barrel it had, its not govt profile so its real front heavy. Plus it comes with a light M4 stock, so its unbalanced. Have to throw on a Magpul UBR to better balance it.

    My stepdad originally wanted one, but then I built him a BCM middy with 12" LaRue rail AR fully decked out for just a little more than a SR556

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