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    Quote Originally Posted by TJx View Post
    Talk about Necrophilia...
    True, but it's still a valid concept. Mine is a 16" LW Mid - all hard parts except the Nodak Spud receiver are BCM. Not a great pic and the AP PRO has been replaced by a lighter MRO, but it's simple and effective.



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    Let’s keep in mind when this thread was made too. In 2009 an optic was in no way KISS. Today? Maybe an Aimpoint or ACOG. I mean, idiot grunts use them all the time.

    PS Rhinoceros should lighten up. It’s unhealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Let’s keep in mind when this thread was made too. In 2009 an optic was in no way KISS. Today? Maybe an Aimpoint or ACOG. I mean, idiot grunts use them all the time.

    PS Rhinoceros should lighten up. It’s unhealthy.
    If anything an “always on” optic like aimpoint or acog would be more KISS than irons. I’ve always hated the KISS concept in execution. A much better philosophy is just keep garbage that doesn’t add a demonstrable, quantifiable improvement to my speed or accuracy appropriate to the given task off my gun.


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    I have perfect far vision, but my near vision is shot. I use this rifle to shoot with irons, I have a corrective shooting Rx, the front sight is always sharp and the target is always blurry. It sucks to get old.

    I left the front sling swivel because I sometimes use it with a loop sling.

    Upper is PSA. LPK is Brownells with an ALG QMS trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyohte View Post
    If anything an “always on” optic like aimpoint or acog would be more KISS than irons. I’ve always hated the KISS concept in execution. A much better philosophy is just keep garbage that doesn’t add a demonstrable, quantifiable improvement to my speed or accuracy appropriate to the given task off my gun.


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    Ive always thought, whats more simple than a single point if aim, a light on my rifle to simplify seeing stuff at night, and a sling not not have to worry about what to do with the gun if you need 2 hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Let’s keep in mind when this thread was made too. In 2009 an optic was in no way KISS. Today? Maybe an Aimpoint or ACOG. I mean, idiot grunts use them all the time.
    Amen. I don't define KISS as lacking capability, just uncomplicated. We can argue about whether tape switches are KISS, but a light is a prerequisite for a useful defensive carbine. And I don't think that 1x red dot with battery life measured in years is complicated. I don't even run BUIS anymore.
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    And to the guys whining about spending more on training, and relying less on the hardware, you just sound like your [sic] trying to make yourself feel superior.

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    KISS Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Sry0fcr View Post
    Amen. I don't define KISS as lacking capability, just uncomplicated. We can argue about whether tape switches are KISS, but a light is a prerequisite for a useful defensive carbine. And I don't think that 1x red dot with battery life measured in years is complicated. I don't even run BUIS anymore.
    I’ve had a battery die on an Aimpoint. No BUIS for a defensive gun with a battery powered optic is asinine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    Ive always thought, whats more simple than a single point if aim, a light on my rifle to simplify seeing stuff at night, and a sling not not have to worry about what to do with the gun if you need 2 hands.
    This right here. Bonus points for an A1 stock with A2 flash hider.

    IMO, a rifle is no longer KISS when dudes put bipods, vert grips, adjustable triggers, visible lasers, giant blingy bolt catches and mag releases, three point slings, adjustable gas blocks, lightweight carriers, hydraulic buffers, and Tasco umpteen power scopes on it. Especially all that crap at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    I’ve had a battery. No BUIS for a defensive gun with a battery powered optic is asinine.
    You should change your batteries at least annually as preventive maintenance. For home defense I'm not likely to have time to flip up folding BUIS and fixed sights clutter my sight picture. I just shoot "through the window", there's not a shot (distance wise) that I could take inside my home where I couldn't get hits.

    If it's your infantry carbine or patrol rifle, you should 100% have BUIS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaykayyy
    And to the guys whining about spending more on training, and relying less on the hardware, you just sound like your [sic] trying to make yourself feel superior.

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    KISS Rifles

    Yeah I’ve always hated the notion of KISS being a stick AR with irons. To me, anything that isn’t some crazy system that requires constant tuning or high probability of breakage counts as simple. When you start having to tune gas, BCGs, or very sensitive buffers (having to switch between multiple buffers for most commercial grade ammo), it’s complicated, but that’s it. LPVOs may qualify, because they have to be mounted properly, but that one is debatable because once it’s set, it should be good.


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