ACOG TA33H_G or Accupoint TR24

[El Mac]

I just picked up a TA11H...it was a long hard search but I found it. It was well worth the search time. It is superlative!

[N2CH_556]

Why don't they put a H reticle in the TR24? Is it a technical or a marketing thing. That would seem to be the real killer application. "Poor" mans Short Dot. Have it range right at 4x?

I have seen this question asked many times but haven't seen an answer yet (or don't remember the answer).

Reminds me of the GRSC CRS concept.

[Rickenbacker53]

I have seen this question asked many times but haven't seen an answer yet (or don't remember the answer).

Reminds me of the GRSC CRS concept.

As You See I have yet to even get an Answer on what I asked 

So I answered it for myself. I found a local store ( Local being a 2 hour drive) They had for display purposes only . A TR24 ( Red Posts) TR24 Amber German X-hairs- TA33R ( Well used) . All of these scopes were mounted on Rifles. The Store owner had a small narrow but fairly Long Sighting only Range. Targets were set at 15 30 50 100 120 150 and 225 yards.

Now keep in mind I couldn't fire these weapons-but it still gave me a very good idea.

While the TA33 was very nice it did not perform like the TR24. Especially from The 15 and 30 yard markers. I am not going into alot of details like a professional expert would. Lets just say from a color standpoint I liked the Amber much more than the red.

The big surprise is I went down there planing on liking the TR24 (Red POSTS), but instead fell in love with the German X hairs.

I tried the TA33 first . But once I tried the TR24 I never went back. If there's a Best of both worlds scope available this has to be it.

As mentioned I fell in love with the x-hairs. They were every bit as fast on closer targets as the red post, but from 100 and farther there wasn't any question this was it. Even if the center dot were to wash out, it appeared you'd just center your target and bang.

I have read a few posts suggesting that a BDC should be added to the recticle.

I disagree that little amber center showed up great and once you know how your rifle shoots you just make the adjustments. I felt both the Ta33 and the Red Post Ta24 covered to much up at 100 yards to be real precise.

To simplify my decision. I chose the TR24 Cross Hairs because what I was looking for is a scope that's fairly fast in close, but that I can consistently shoot tight groups at 100 yards and out.

I didn't feel I could consistently do that with the other 2 examples. For me the Ta33 was just an old dog with worse eyes than its predecessors.

Those of you waiting for green in the TR24. While I don't think you'll be disappointed, I think the yellow would show up better.

I brought some 50 cent size slugs with me. Painted Lime Green, Red, Yellow, Orange, and Bright Blue. I had drilled a center hole in each piece and attached them vertically to a piece of heavy cardboard.

To be fair I should mention, I am a 53 year old that GOD as chosen to leave my eyes as they were when I was 30. I don't need glasses for anything so far.

I set the cardboard at 50 yards and could see every color. So I tried 100 and
could pick out the yellow and Red but the rest seemed to wash out. It was getting pretty late and the store owner appeared to be getting a tad peeved I was wasting so much time- so I quit went inside and proceeded to purchase the German Cross Hair in Amber. I think I'll be very happy.

As to my color test. To get a better idea of what your eyes really pick up ..I plan on trying it again but with one color at a time at the local range where I can take my sweet time.

Anyway- This post is clearly just my own opinion of the 2 scopes and the options of what I had to try.

I think you guys debating on either TA33 or TR24 ..Will rather have the 24. Especially if your coming from and Eotech or Aimpoint like I am. Thanks

[Terry]

Sorry I didn't answer your question, and Thank you for the write up.

[DTHN2LGS]

I just picked up a TA11H...it was a long hard search but I found it. It was well worth the search time. It is superlative!

Where?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

XXXXX

[Rickenbacker53]

I might wait for a TA11H-G.

It really doesn't matter at this point because I have my scope- but why are you guys discussing a totally different scope than what the Thread is about. I wrote the thread for some answers and discussion of the TA33 and TR24 -Not the Ta11.. Why do people change the subject. ??

Start a TA11 thread

[N2CH_556]

Sorry, Rickenbacker53.

I don't think anyone was intentionally taking your thread off-topic.

It's just that sometimes some folks don't know what they don't know.

And in that case, it might be helpful for someone with experience to suggest a TA11 or other "off topic" optic (even though you might think that's not what you want, or have never even considered it) and possibly get you exactly where you want to be.

Again, glad you found what you were looking for and hopefully this discussion can continue to be useful for others in the future who may find themselves in the same spot you were in, when you created this thread.

[CCK]

In the vane of continuing education, or for those still undecided. I have a TA33-8 (amber chevron) on my GP rifle. I would echo the sentiments of Steven58. As an all around optic I don't think a better one exists.

Mine is in a ADM mount and also has proven to have very repeatable zero.

Chris

[JHC]

+1 CCK
I'm Terrifically impressed with my TA33 Amber chevron. It has produced some very good groups on the precision side and I look forward to wringng it out in some 3 gun. My son fired this 200 yard group with it recently.

I appreciate it when threads wander about other options. This can be very helpful for any number or reasons.