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    M&P 15 VTAC

    I Picked up one of these last fall and have had the opportunity to put approx 2,000 rnds through it so far. As far as I can tell it has been a great gun.

    Has anyone else had any experience with this model and what are your opinions on it?


    A couple other questions I have since this is my first AR. What kinda of barrel wear should I expect at this round count, what should the bore look like. As I am unfamiliar as to how to judge condition of a chrome lined bore.

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    Any new info on these rifles ??? I've got one on order and it looks like a real nice piece. Who has experience with their own ??

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    I played with Kyle Lambs VTAC rifle when I attended his 1.5 course. I was amazed at how light the weapon was. The only thing I'd wish for is that it was a mid-length barrel instead of a carbine (personal preference).

    As far as barrel wear, I wouldn't worry about it. The average barrel life is 20K to 30K. The Bolt parts (extractor, extractor spring, black insert,) will start to wear first and will need to be replaced, depending on the rounds fired and hard (a carbine course) VS light usage. The Gas Key (Depending if it was properly staked) and Bolt lugs (Crack or Sheer off) will start to fail at higher round counts. I start to detail inspect for serviceability, around the 4-5K mark, then every 2K after that. Expect the extractor to go first around the 5K mark. If the weapon starts to Fail to Feed, replace the entire extractor, spring and insert. Replace the buffer and action/buffer spring, when it starts to short stroke. Just keep the BCG well lubed and clean it as you see fit. As always, anything can break at anytime and they don't normally stick to a fixed schedule to break.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the buffer basically just weight? What about it would require replacement?

    Or are you referring to the receiver extension itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverine View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the buffer basically just weight?
    Yes it is.

    What about it would require replacement?
    If over time, your weapon starts to short stroke, you may need to increase the weight of the buffer for proper functioning, and or, replace the action/buffer spring. Some manufacturers use carbine buffers in their carbine ARs, while others use H buffers for greater reliability. I prefer to use the H buffer, which is recommended for carbine length barrels. Not sure whether the VTAC or other M&P ARs use carbine buffers or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rharris2163 View Post
    Yes it is.



    If over time, your weapon starts to short stroke, you may need to increase the weight of the buffer for proper functioning, and or, replace the action/buffer spring. Some manufacturers use carbine buffers in their carbine ARs, while others use H buffers for greater reliability. I prefer to use the H buffer, which is recommended for carbine length barrels. Not sure whether the VTAC or other M&P ARs use carbine buffers or not.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't short stroking be indicative of not enough gas reaching the bolt carrier? I would think that a heavier buffer would just exacerbate such a problem. So far in my short ownership the only failure I experienced was a failure to feed with one round of wolf lead tipped .223, otherwise the rifle has performed great, but as we all know, only greater round counts will tell.

    And to answer a question from a previous post.
    From what I can tell, my VTAC has a carbine buffer, properly staked gas key, and castle nut, oh and a 1/7 barrel.

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    looks like a cool rifle.

    congrats.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blGRU_S8YqQ <<<<Milspec Monkey video w/ Kyle Lamb @ SHOT 2009
    Last edited by Parabellum9x19mm; 07-16-09 at 20:54.
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    I've only handled one but was very impressed. What is the street price on these, as the shop I was at had ridiculous prices across the board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    I've only handled one but was very impressed. What is the street price on these, as the shop I was at had ridiculous prices across the board?
    This rifle always interested me, especially as my needs/wants have changed.

    I assume this rifle falls on the same part of the chart has the other M&P rifles?
    I know noveske offered a version of this, but used carbine gas systems as well.

    I agree with whoever said it above, a midlength would be nice, a barrel swap would be easy...but then you are left w/an extra barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek_Connor View Post
    This rifle always interested me, especially as my needs/wants have changed.

    I assume this rifle falls on the same part of the chart has the other M&P rifles?
    I know noveske offered a version of this, but used carbine gas systems as well.

    I agree with whoever said it above, a midlength would be nice, a barrel swap would be easy...but then you are left w/an extra barrel.
    As others have stated, I believe it has a better quality 1:7 barrel. So it would be much more appealing (left of the chart) than the regular M&P to me.

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