Good non jhp 9mm luger defense load

[iceman0085]

Hi, I have recenlty baught an glock 19 and it's an great gun. I have allready tested it on the range. I want to use it as an sd gun also but I am from austria and my country jhp bullets (with lead core) are prohibited. It would be possible to use full lead hp, copper hps, sjhps and Pre fragemented rounds like the glaser safty slug. Some specialty rounds like the federal efmj, corbon powerball and corbon dpx would be available. Which of these loads would you recomend?

thx for the help in advance

Greetings from Austria

[Jim from Houston]

Of the list you've given, the Corbon DPX is far and away the best performer...if it's available and legal to use, it's the way to go...

Avoid prefragmented rounds like Glaser...they simply do not work.

[iceman0085]

I see. Thx for the answer. I am also the opineon that the dpx rounds would be the best choice. The powerball concept sounds als intersting, but I think the dpx rounds would be better.

ps. What do you think about the EFMJ from federal?

[Jim from Houston]

EFMJ is ok...it often gives inconsistent results in tests that I've seen and is very velocity dependant...if DPX is a legal, available option, there's no point using EFMJ...a well-designed actual hollowpoint is almost always going to give better and more consistent performance than a round like EFMJ or Pow'rball...

EFMJ was designed for places like the US state of New Jersey, where all hollowpoints, regardless of material, are banned from carry...the DPX round would not be legal to carry in New Jersey, so they have to use something like EFMJ.

In Austria, is sounds like you have a way around the law if the bullet is not a jacketed lead projectile...if the DPX is legal, it's your best bet because its not really a compromise...it is a hollowpoint, just one that doesn't use regular JHP construction.

[iceman0085]

@Jim from Houston. Yes, that's an odd law. In fact only Jackted Hollow Points are prohibited, it would be no problem to use full copper or lead hallow points. And even the "evil" Jhps are not totally prohibited. Since 2008 it is possible to buy the evil jhps with an special permition. I am not an aproved hunter so I can't get these stuff. But the dpx rounds will work fine for me.

[Jim from Houston]

Well, then you're all set...the DPX would be a good choice even if you could choose any ammo you wanted...you're not really giving anything up...even here in Texas, where we can use whatever ammo we please, a Glock 19 loaded with DPX would be a very popular choice.

[iceman0085]

Well, then you're all set...the DPX would be a good choice even if you could choose any ammo you wanted...you're not really giving anything up...even here in Texas, where we can use whatever ammo we please, a Glock 19 loaded with DPX would be a very popular choice.

I see. Thx for the infos.I will visit my local gunstore on monday and order the dpx.

[tpd223]

I know several people who can choose whatever they want, and carry the DPX, it is very good ammo.
One of my back-up magazines is loaded with DPX.

[iceman0085]

I know several people who can choose whatever they want, and carry the DPX, it is very good ammo.
One of my back-up magazines is loaded with DPX.

Thx for your answer. In the meantime I have visited my local gunstore and I have orederd the dpx rounds.


ps: What do you think about the Magtech First Defense Copper HPs?

[tpd223]

I've shot some of the Magtech 9mm and .38, it's low recoil and has been reliable in the limited shooting I have done.

I haven't seen it tested in gelatin, I'd worry that these rounds might not penetrate enough as they are rather light for the caliber.