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Thread: Major Extraction Failures Today! (Updates About Gun & SW Customer Service)

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    Well, are we seeing a pattern here? Your gun so far runs perfectly on Privi - right? Privi is *far* better ammo than Wolf.

    Yes Virginia - Wolf *does* suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Katar View Post
    So, I'm thinking your extractor spring and insert (did it come with an O-ring?) are wearing out already - the question is... why so early in the weapon's life? How are your gas rings? Do you know how to check them?
    Yes the gas rings are not aligned like they should be, but someone pulled the bolt out yesterday, I am checking that right now. I'm not going to lie to you, I'm a bit upset about this. The gun is still under warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmanus View Post
    Yes the gas rings are not aligned like they should be, but someone pulled the bolt out yesterday, I am checking that right now.
    Can you be more specific about this? Generally worn gas rings = short stroking, but they could cause extraction failures in some circumstances.

    How does the recoil of your weapon feel? Does it feel unusually sharp or soft?

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    I just removed the bolt, and the openings on the gas rings are all within a centimeter of one another. They use to be very spread out prior to this weekend. It is very possible that they guy that pulled the bolt aligned them and thy shook apart a little bit. They are close.

    Also I do not know how to check for a d-ring but I was told it had one. I have never taken the extractor apart.

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    The little spaces in the gas rings don't need to be staggered or aligned.

    I think that you are just experiencing some of the common failures that can occur with really low quality ammunition. Give the chamber a good cleaning, lube the bolt and carrier *generously* with a quality liquid lubricant and try again. A BCM extractor upgrade is also a good idea - taking the extractor apart is very simple.

    http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=435

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    Thank you Katar, You can add this entire thread to the topic "Why [I] chose M4Carbine.net". I will read that thread about the extractor right now.

    Also is it possible that my choice of oil had something to do with it? What is a "high quality" oil?

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    What did you use to lubricate?

    Where did you apply it?

    How much did you apply?

    How often do you reapply?

    How often do you clean when you shoot really dirty ammo like Wolf?

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    I would think it would be prudent to shoot quality ammo through your gun before jumping to conclusions. I am will to bet your problem is related to your wolf ammo rather than your gun. Shoot brass ammo through it and see if the problem goes away. If it does then you will know the answer to your problem without going crazy guessing what might or could be the problem. Sometimes amazingly it is the simplist solution. In then end if you find out your gun does not like wolf ammo then consider that knowledge gained and move on.

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockshooter View Post
    In then end if you find out your gun does not like wolf ammo then consider that knowledge gained and move on.
    This is good advice.

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    Any decent name brand lube is fine, and some guys even use motor oil/etc.
    I'd buy some Slip 2000 and be done with it.

    If you want to run Wolf without these issues, go buy an AK, and shoot the crap out of it.
    Otherwise, you'll probably have some issues from time to time in the AR platform.
    Wolf is about the dirtiest ammo on planet Earth, as you have seen.
    I'm sure the Wolf nazis will be along in a minute to tell you how their AR runs 100% on Wolf, but not everyone's AR is always going to do that...
    Last edited by Razorhunter; 07-05-09 at 22:41.
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