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    Quote Originally Posted by rharris2163 View Post
    BM/OLY/RRA/Stag owners are like the Borg on Star Trek, "Resistance is Futile" They will defend their choice to the bitter end. God know why.
    I believe the reason is simple. Folks paid good money for a product. They should expect it to be everything that it is supposed to be. Way too many gun shops spout the "just as good as" mantra. To them it's all about profit. Add to that the complete lack of any real knowledge of the part of the staff.

    Often these brands due just fine in peoples hands because most folks just don't shoot enough or in a compressed time period to make difference. It's only when these brands are placed in a real world use environment, such as one simulated in a high round count class that the differences become apparent.

    As has already been stated, with the cost of making them right (not including qualified labor) you could have purchased a tier one brand to begin with. Unfortunately that's one thing you will never hear in most gun shops. Colt's/LMT's/BCM's/Noveske's/Larue's/Etc. are just not as readily available and/or the initial investment for the purchaser is higher so there's less chance of making a sale.

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    what makes BM as one of his options ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    I believe the reason is simple. Folks paid good money for a product. They should expect it to be everything that it is supposed to be. Way too many gun shops spout the "just as good as" mantra. To them it's all about profit. Add to that the complete lack of any real knowledge of the part of the staff.

    Often these brands due just fine in peoples hands because most folks just don't shoot enough or in a compressed time period to make difference. It's only when these brands are placed in a real world use environment, such as one simulated in a high round count class that the differences become apparent.

    As has already been stated, with the cost of making them right (not including qualified labor) you could have purchased a tier one brand to begin with. Unfortunately that's one thing you will never hear in most gun shops. Colt's/LMT's/BCM's/Noveske's/Larue's/Etc. are just not as readily available and/or the initial investment for the purchaser is higher so there's less chance of making a sale.
    Agreed. Add to that, gunshops in the real world are still marking up 6920s($1799.00 locally), priced WAY higher that rrastagolybushmaster's, setting in the rack next to them. Folks are going to go for the the inexpensive, cheaper products every time.
    That's why they sell more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROADKING View Post
    A freind of mine wants to buy an AR but is stuck between the M&P15 and the BUSHMASTER which one would be a good rifle for him. I have a M&P15 and love it but he wants more opinions.
    Ok, here is my opinion. It's real simple. Take a lower made by who ever, DPMS, BM, RRA, Stag, etc. and put a BCM or LMT upper on it. (with a BCM or LMT bolt carrier group).

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    Quote Originally Posted by recon by fire View Post
    Ok, here is my opinion. It's real simple. Take a lower made by who ever, DPMS, BM, RRA, Stag, etc. and put a BCM or LMT upper on it. (with a BCM or LMT bolt carrier group).
    or rather get a brand that fits your budget and start with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron_m4 View Post
    or rather get a brand that fits your budget and start with it.
    The guy is trying to choose between a Bushmaster and a S&W. That means he can atleast afford a BM or a S&W. I just looked at prices, and like I suggested, to take a DPMS complete lower and put an LMT upper on it (with LMT BCG, and including hand guards, charging handle, and BUIS) only costs roughly $100-$200 more than a similar S&W M&P rifle for $1003 delivered from budsgunshop.com. You could nit pick about how I did my math, but the point is, if someone can afford to buy a $1000 rifle, why not save up another $100-$200, and get a better quality rifle?
    Last edited by recon by fire; 07-21-09 at 14:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROADKING View Post
    A freind of mine wants to buy an AR but is stuck between the M&P15 and the BUSHMASTER which one would be a good rifle for him. I have a M&P15 and love it but he wants more opinions.
    Definitely get the MP15, check the chart out, its a much better weapon. Still, there are better weapons out there, but the M&P15 isn't bad, its apparently gotten the nod from the Magpul Dynamics crew as well.
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