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    'Stan question

    Was watching a news report on the surge and noticed all M4's had rails and vertical foregrips;some even had BUIS with optics.Are the GI's supplied these as such or do they mod them themselves?I.E. there is no standard anymore;do what ever makes you better?Just curious;no disrespect meant towards anyone or any branch.

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    Most things should be issued. It depends what units you are at as to how much leeway you'll get with using personal stuff.

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    I've also been noticing that there are pmags in use over there, more than before (at least from what I've noticed on the news).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBRFAN View Post
    Was watching a news report on the surge and noticed all M4's had rails and vertical foregrips;some even had BUIS with optics.Are the GI's supplied these as such or do they mod them themselves?I.E. there is no standard anymore;do what ever makes you better?Just curious;no disrespect meant towards anyone or any branch.

    There is a standard piece of equipment used for all of these. A quick rundown of the main stuff follows:

    The Knights Armament RAS is the standard handguard used on the M4 and M16A2/A3/A4.

    The standard BUIS is the Matech.

    The standard foregrip is the Knights Armament vertical grip.

    The standard optics are the Aimpoint M2 (M68), TA31F ACOG, and TA31RCO ACOG.

    In special operations command, there are some different pieces of gear that are standard on the M4A1.

    The Knights Armament RIS is used.

    The standard optics are the TA01NSN ACOG, the TA01ECOS ACOG.

    The Knights 300m BUIS is the standard rear sight instead of the Matech.


    You will find other pieces of gear being used. These would come from commercial sources and are not a standardized item.
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    There are also LOTS of conventional Army units over here using EoTechs so they would be considered standard as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    There is a standard piece of equipment used for all of these. A quick rundown of the main stuff follows:

    The Knights Armament RAS is the standard handguard used on the M4 and M16A2/A3/A4.

    The standard BUIS is the Matech.

    The standard foregrip is the Knights Armament vertical grip.

    The standard optics are the Aimpoint M2 (M68), TA31F ACOG, and TA31RCO ACOG.

    In special operations command, there are some different pieces of gear that are standard on the M4A1.

    The Knights Armament RIS is used.

    The standard optics are the TA01NSN ACOG, the TA01ECOS ACOG.

    The Knights 300m BUIS is the standard rear sight instead of the Matech.


    You will find other pieces of gear being used. These would come from commercial sources and are not a standardized item.



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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    There is a standard piece of equipment used for all of these. A quick rundown of the main stuff follows:

    The Knights Armament RAS is the standard handguard used on the M4 and M16A2/A3/A4.

    The standard BUIS is the Matech.

    The standard foregrip is the Knights Armament vertical grip.

    The standard optics are the Aimpoint M2 (M68), TA31F ACOG, and TA31RCO ACOG.

    In special operations command, there are some different pieces of gear that are standard on the M4A1.

    The Knights Armament RIS is used.

    The standard optics are the TA01NSN ACOG, the TA01ECOS ACOG.

    The Knights 300m BUIS is the standard rear sight instead of the Matech.


    You will find other pieces of gear being used. These would come from commercial sources and are not a standardized item.
    Thank you but at what point are they modded?

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    My best friend's unit in the 10th MTN gets issued grip pods.
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    My Son-in-Law is ANG. He is said the Soldier's in HIS unit are able to upgrade
    some parts pieces. Stocks, VFG, rail covers, lights. Optics, mags, sights are "as issued" from the Unit..... no deviations.
    Last edited by faawrenchbndr; 07-12-09 at 15:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bread is People View Post
    I've also been noticing that there are pmags in use over there, more than before (at least from what I've noticed on the news).
    The number of units/organizations issuing PMAGs is growing daily. I used to be surprised when I saw a PMAG on the news or in a photo...now I'm almost surprised when I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickB View Post
    The number of units/organizations issuing PMAGs is growing daily. I used to be surprised when I saw a PMAG on the news or in a photo...now I'm almost surprised when I don't.
    Thats a good thing
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