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    "Full" kit?

    Didn't really see this addressed in the other "kit" threads.

    Let's suppose I'm willing to spend the money on a fairly comprehensive kit to keep in the trunk in the event that I, with my tremendous 52 hours of training, am forced to singlehandedly respond to the apocalypse. I do not need anything that involves putting additional holes in people, as I've got no training to do so.

    I was looking at something like this bag from Galls which quite literally seems to cover every single thing I was trained to do.

    It's understood that the odds are I'll never use 95% of the stuff in the bag, but it seems like cheap insurance rather than finding myself in a situation where I need something and don't have it.

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    1 - BVM
    2 - Rolls Kerlix (4")
    1 - 4"-8" thick handful of non-sterile gauze in ziplock baggie
    1 - Trauma Dressing (the huge gauze pads like 20" by 15"
    1 - 4" Ace bandage
    2 - Tourniquets
    2 - Triangular Bandages
    1 - OB KIT (http://www.buyemp.com/product/1112101.html)
    1 - Baby Beanie (http://www.buyemp.com/product/1112203.html)
    1 - 500mL bottle NS or Sterile Water
    1 - Biggest Damn box of different types of Band-Aids that you can find (including at least some kid friendly animal or cartoon print)
    1 - Tube of Neosporin Triple Antibiotic
    1 - Container of Bug Spray just the standard 5000% DEET is sufficient
    1 - Bottle of spray type topical Benadryl
    1 - Bottle of very high SPH sunbock
    1 - Pair of tweezers
    2 - Tampons (See Below)
    2 - Sanitary Napkins (Chick Pads - They dig em)
    1 - Roll Silk 1" Medical Tape
    1 - Sam Splint
    2 - Instant Cold Packs
    1 - Pair of Cheap Trauma Shears
    2 - Space Blanket
    1 - Box of Large Nitrile Gloves placed in 1 gallon ziplock baggie (as many as you can fit)
    1 - Blood Glucose Meeter with disposable lancets
    1 - Tube of oral Glucose or non-melting candy bar
    1 - Regular plain jane digital thermometer with disposable sleeves
    1 - Bottle of Hand Sanitizer

    The Following OTC Meds in either the original bottle or a multi pill organizer clearly marked as to the name, dose, standard dosing regimen, and exp date.

    Tylenol
    Ibuprofen
    Aspirin
    Benadryl
    Pseudoephedrine
    Guaifenesin

    Children's Liquid Tylenol
    Children's Liquid Benadryl






    That should cover anything that you need in a car type scenario. Some of those things wont seem like necessary items until you need them. Anyone else see any changes they need to make to this list feel free to add/subtract.

    PS-I just think its cool to get to give Todd advice for once lol.

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    If there is one thing you dont want to be without its gloves. Keep at least 10 pair of size large non-latex gloves in a ziplock baggie in the console of every vehicle you own. Being out of gloves when someone needs help is just as bad as being out of bullets when someone needs shooting.

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    TacMedic -- Generally (edited to add: I meant genuinely not generally!) appreciate that. I'm hoping there's a turnkey solution rather than having to source and build the kit myself.

    But quite a few of the things you listed, I'd have never thought of.
    Last edited by ToddG; 07-16-09 at 01:03.

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    TacMedic came up with a pretty comprehensive list....oddly enough, naming most, if not all the items in my personal kit.

    A couple of additions though:

    A good flashlight - you never know when you'll need one. Chances are, you'll be carrying one in your vehicle or on your person, but if not, definitely put one in the kit. I carry a yellow Surefire G2 in my bag in the outside chance that it's dark and I need to treat someone but left my maglite in the truck. Why yellow? If I drop it then it's easy to spot.

    A couple occlusive dressings - great for patching the holes you didn't wake up with that morning. These can be the commercially available types such as the Ascherman Chest Seal, or you can improvise with a petroleum jelly dressing.

    Tongue depressors - literally. You'll find a hundred uses for them. I've used them for applying topical ointments, splinting broken/sprained fingers, and of course to depress tongues.

    BP cuff and stethoscope - obviously for checking BPs. The cuff can be used as a tournaquet as well, and the scope can clue you in to breath sounds or the absense thereof.
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    If I skimmed over it in the list I didn't mean to but I would definitely throw in a small stuffed animal. Whether you're treating a child or the adult/parent it will definitely help relax the kid by focusing their attention in either situation. Maybe a sucker too??? What kid doesn't like a lollipop and a teddy bear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizensoldier16 View Post
    TacMedic came up with a pretty comprehensive list....oddly enough, naming most, if not all the items in my personal kit.

    A couple of additions though:

    A good flashlight - you never know when you'll need one. Chances are, you'll be carrying one in your vehicle or on your person, but if not, definitely put one in the kit. I carry a yellow Surefire G2 in my bag in the outside chance that it's dark and I need to treat someone but left my maglite in the truck. Why yellow? If I drop it then it's easy to spot.

    cough HEADLAMP cough

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMedic View Post
    1 - BVM
    2 - Rolls Kerlix (4")
    1 - 4"-8" thick handful of non-sterile gauze in ziplock baggie
    1 - Trauma Dressing (the huge gauze pads like 20" by 15"
    1 - 4" Ace bandage
    2 - Tourniquets
    2 - Triangular Bandages
    1 - OB KIT (http://www.buyemp.com/product/1112101.html)
    1 - Baby Beanie (http://www.buyemp.com/product/1112203.html)
    1 - 500mL bottle NS or Sterile Water
    1 - Biggest Damn box of different types of Band-Aids that you can find (including at least some kid friendly animal or cartoon print)
    1 - Tube of Neosporin Triple Antibiotic
    1 - Container of Bug Spray just the standard 5000% DEET is sufficient
    1 - Bottle of spray type topical Benadryl
    1 - Bottle of very high SPH sunbock
    1 - Pair of tweezers
    2 - Tampons (See Below)
    2 - Sanitary Napkins (Chick Pads - They dig em)
    1 - Roll Silk 1" Medical Tape
    1 - Sam Splint
    2 - Instant Cold Packs
    1 - Pair of Cheap Trauma Shears
    2 - Space Blanket
    1 - Box of Large Nitrile Gloves placed in 1 gallon ziplock baggie (as many as you can fit)
    1 - Blood Glucose Meeter with disposable lancets
    1 - Tube of oral Glucose or non-melting candy bar
    1 - Regular plain jane digital thermometer with disposable sleeves
    1 - Bottle of Hand Sanitizer

    The Following OTC Meds in either the original bottle or a multi pill organizer clearly marked as to the name, dose, standard dosing regimen, and exp date.

    Tylenol
    Ibuprofen
    Aspirin
    Benadryl
    Pseudoephedrine
    Guaifenesin

    Children's Liquid Tylenol
    Children's Liquid Benadryl






    That should cover anything that you need in a car type scenario. Some of those things wont seem like necessary items until you need them. Anyone else see any changes they need to make to this list feel free to add/subtract.

    PS-I just think its cool to get to give Todd advice for once lol.
    Good info thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddG View Post
    Didn't really see this addressed in the other "kit" threads.

    Let's suppose I'm willing to spend the money on a fairly comprehensive kit to keep in the trunk in the event that I, with my tremendous 52 hours of training, am forced to singlehandedly respond to the apocalypse. I do not need anything that involves putting additional holes in people, as I've got no training to do so.

    I was looking at something like this bag from Galls which quite literally seems to cover every single thing I was trained to do.

    It's understood that the odds are I'll never use 95% of the stuff in the bag, but it seems like cheap insurance rather than finding myself in a situation where I need something and don't have it.
    Biggest reason I can advocate to someone who can afford the big kit to buy it is not necessarily that you may know how to use every item inside. But a good example would be the power outage a few years back. I have access to plenty of local doctors and nurses, but the chances of any of the knuckleheads actually having gear with them is slim to none outside of their familiar hospital environment. I can get to them and put the stuff in their hands to do what needs to be done beyond what my knowledge covers. So i sure as hell may not know how to use sutures and scalpels but I know people within a half mile who do. Same situation in vehicular accidents on the highway, been in several where nurses come up to offer help without a damn thing in their hands. Do however be very cognizant of your own skill/equipment limitations though.



    Holy thread resurrection batman, I just went back to check the original thread date. rofl
    Last edited by dhrith; 05-24-10 at 00:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhrith View Post
    Biggest reason I can advocate to someone who can afford the big kit to buy it is not necessarily that you may know how to use every item inside. But a good example would be the power outage a few years back. I have access to plenty of local doctors and nurses, but the chances of any of the knuckleheads actually having gear with them is slim to none outside of their familiar hospital environment. I can get to them and put the stuff in their hands to do what needs to be done beyond what my knowledge covers. So i sure as hell may not know how to use sutures and scalpels but I know people within a half mile who do. Same situation in vehicular accidents on the highway, been in several where nurses come up to offer help without a damn thing in their hands. Do however be very cognizant of your own skill/equipment limitations though.



    Holy thread resurrection batman, I just went back to check the original thread date. rofl
    Thread resurrection indeed.
    My thinking is the same. Have the gear. You never know when someone needs an airway and there's a nurse standing there.

    http://www.redflarekits.com/first-aid-kits/4018

    Ive added a suture kit and additional beeding supplies.

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