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    Mob / Multiple Threat Tactics & Strategies

    How does one address a situation when they are confronted by a large group of assailants simultaneously? I realise that avoiding such situations and awareness/vigilance are the best methods however, lets say that is not practical to consistently avoid an area that is high risk .

    what i mean is that my neighborhood has been a subject of 3 "flash mob" incidents in the past 7 weeks
    an example of whats going on is found here...
    http://cbs3.com/topstories/Teens.Des...2.1025684.html

    what are some thoughts on how to be best prepared and to deal with a situation where i get "bum rushed" ie jumped by multiple attackers simultaneously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorlinc View Post
    what are some thoughts on how to be best prepared and to deal with a situation where i get "bum rushed" ie jumped by multiple attackers simultaneously.
    My 2 cents:

    Even though it's obvious and you already mentioned it, the first step is situational awareness. Take note when a group of people starts to surround you. Don't allow yourself to get cornered. The minute you feel uncomfortable, beat feet. That little "I don't like this" instinct is an evolutionary carryover/God's little way of telling you something (depending on your philosophical persuasion) and you should listen to it. People who fail to listen to it often find themselves in trouble.

    As for what to do when the attack is underway...well....if you kill 2 or 3 the rest of the mob will most likely scatter like the vermin that they are. The problem now is that you potentially have X number of hostile witnesses who will tell the cops that they were having a nice game of stickball when this crazy white dude just started shooting at them.

    ...that they were intending on ramming the stick up your rectum and making you into a puppet will somehow escape their recollection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorlinc View Post
    How does one address a situation when they are confronted by a large group of assailants simultaneously? I realise that avoiding such situations and awareness/vigilance are the best methods however, lets say that is not practical to consistently avoid an area that is high risk .

    what i mean is that my neighborhood has been a subject of 3 "flash mob" incidents in the past 7 weeks
    an example of whats going on is found here...
    http://cbs3.com/topstories/Teens.Des...2.1025684.html

    what are some thoughts on how to be best prepared and to deal with a situation where i get "bum rushed" ie jumped by multiple attackers simultaneously.
    Man what is it with Philly? If it was me and I had to pull the gun out I would aim it at the biggest meanest MotherF#cker in the group If I had to use deadly force start with the most immediate danger who ever you fear the most. Most mobs lose there back bone once the instigator or 2 are are bleeding out on the ground. Just my 2 bits





    + What ever John Wayne says he alway has good advice.
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    BETA-C Mag. Tracers help disperse mobs readily as well. It's one thing for them to hear you shooting, but when they can see the tracers doing through-and throughs, they tend to scatter at amazing velocity. My crowd control tactic nowadays is that I live out in the sticks.

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    My crowd control tactic nowadays is that I live out in the sticks.
    +1

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    Don't project VICTIM and have the correct weapon(s) at yuor immediate disposal to deal w/ threat and furtive movements.

    Have a PLAN B as well.....

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    This is a good question because it it a scenario that the average everyday dude could be faced with.

    Awareness is number one, of course. Condition Yellow, as they say. Avoidance is the natural next step, but as you said sometimes we cannot avoid the situation. Retreat is an option, but we must be able to *safely retreat* i.e. the act of attempting to retreat does not in fact make us more vulnerable.

    Keep eyes open for exit paths and for cover - at least something to put between you and some of these people.

    A group of angry people is very dangerous - my personal threshold for entering Condition Orange and subsequently Condition Red would be lower than dealing with one individual. My personal opinion is that your best chance of getting out of a situation like that is your commitment to the maximum amount of violence in the smallest time frame.

    A crowd whipped up into a frenzy - for whatever reason - can quickly have their enthusiasm deflated when their two most vocal and aggressive suddenly receive multiple gunshot wounds. A mob of people is no time to go wobbly - you could easily end up with life-threatening injuries if you don't resolve yourself up front to overwhelming violence.

    Just my $.02.
    Last edited by Jay Cunningham; 07-29-09 at 09:43.

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    Just watch the Outlaw Josey Wales.

    Seriously this is an excellent question, I had a similar situation in EMS about 10 years ago. We beat feet until PD arrived as mobs are notoriously hard to anticipate.

    Things can go South quickly and your only advantage is to act first, this however can have legal ramifications unless you're a cop and read the riot act.

    One thing to consider is that your flanks and rear are as important as the front. Multiple persons can get behind you quickly and without you knowing. Keep your head on a swivel.
    It is bad policy to fear the resentment of an enemy. -Ethan Allen

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    In the few times I've been around a small mob of arseholes (not directly involved in most, but watching from a ways off), it was pretty easy to pick out the so called "leader" of the mob. If it came down to it, I'd say take him out first. Often times, taking the loud mouth out of the equation will go a long way to stopping further escalation. The incidents I've seen and been involved in didn't involve firearms, but a loud mouth is a loud mouth. Stop that guy first and people quickly lose interest.

    Zhur


    PS. Colorado State University football fans take their team just a little bit to seriously sometimes.


    PPS. As an aside, I think violence and speed of action would have a lot to do with it, as Katar said. "Are you the one that killed our friend?"
    Last edited by Zhurdan; 07-29-09 at 11:22.
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    Lightbulb

    YOUR neighborhood sounds like what's moving closer to MY neighborhood, over here in PA's other 'blue anchor.'

    Much as I'd LOVE to get back to the countryside, I don't foresee it happening anytime soon (not by my OWN choosing anyways - apocalypses have a way of RE-locating people, regardless... ). Therefore, I'd work on turning your home into a castle. Layer your defenses, and make it as impregnable as possible.

    If you're in an apartment, well... it's been good knowin' ya'.
    - Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -

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