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    Which AR-15 Kit?

    I've decided to built my own AR-15 from a kit. I would be grateful for information from those who know, ranking various suppliers of parts, kits, complete barreled uppers, stripped lower receivers, etc. I don't even have a budget yet because I don't know where that sweet spot is before the diminishing returns kick in. I'm handy with small tools and don't feel threatened by the challenges of the actual build. I'm just trying to decide how much to spend for parts and whom to buy them from.

    I do want a well-made, reliable weapon, but I do not intend to put 5000 rounds a year through it. I have other rifles I shoot like that, but that's not what I intend to do with the AR-15. My main reason for getting an AR-15 is as a reward/incentive for my son, who has enlisted in the USMC delayed entry program his senior year. He wants to get familiar with 5.56mm before boot camp, so I offered him the AR-15 as a prize if he could score over a 250 on his PFT, put 3000 carefully aimed rounds through paper with a .22, and memorize his ranks, codes, jargon, rules, etc. He's at 247 on the PFT and is close to the other goals.

    So on the one hand this isn't an AR-15 just to sit in the safe, nor is it about TEOTWAWKI on the other (though a bit of anti-statism is lurking in there somewhere). I just want something that isn't junk, gives my son a good feel for 5.56mm, and perhaps takes my libertarian 2nd Amendment sentiments to the next level just a bit (I already have a safe full of fun stuff but no evil black rifle yet).

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    This is what I would do:

    Get these:

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M...urg-gov-20.htm

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-...dle%20ar15.htm

    http://www.newriverarms.net/product-...hp?pid110.html

    Now all you need is an A2 stock, Lower receiver, and LPK....at least this is the route i'm currently taking. The LPK is going to be the biggest problem, they are out everywhere.
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    ive never seen a "kit" that i would pay any money for. if you want something that's purely an instructional gun that isnt gonna cost a lot of money, Stag (CMT) makes probably the best "cheap" gun, in my own opinion. CMT parts are consistent, and any lack of staking can be fixed with a $10 spring loaded punch from a hardware store.

    the only advantage to assembling your own gun is that you get to source your own parts. if you're not interested in personal selection of parts based upon desirable criteria, you might as well just buy something. stag m4geries can be had for under $800

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    Look at bravocompanyusa.com and gandrtactical.com and look for parts from BCM, LMT, or the G and R Tactical line... Anything you get from them should be good to go. Depending on options you should easily stay under 1K. Probably the easiest route would be a BCM complete lower and barrelled upper.
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    Some other great sights to look for parts at are:

    Aim Surplus
    Peach State Guns (LBR lower for less than $100)
    Brownell's
    Del-Ton
    Rainier Arms

    Just to name a few
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    BB,

    Here's my thoughts. Right now instead of trying to get the parts to build one I would look for a Colt 6920, Daniel Defense M4 or XV and be done. I believe that the latter is retailing for around 1200.00 or less.

    Another option would be the BCM or LMT complete lowers for about 350.00, a 16" Bravo Company upper for approx. 475.00 (when available) and a BCG for about 150.00. Add in the handguards and you are around 1040.00 or so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    BB,

    Here's my thoughts. Right now instead of trying to get the parts to build one I would look for a Colt 6920, Daniel Defense M4 or XV and be done. I believe that the latter is retailing for around 1200.00 or less.

    Another option would be the BCM or LMT complete lowers for about 350.00, a 16" Bravo Company upper for approx. 475.00 (when available) and a BCG for about 150.00. Add in the handguards and you are around 1040.00 or so.

    I have to go along with Iraqgunz on this. As your son is rapidly closing in on your benchmarks, time is a factor. Given the recent market for all things "Black Rifle" related, waiting for the various parts may take a long time (possibly months,) especially if you're going for quality mechandise. A complete rifle might be a better choice for you. A Daniels Defense XV or an LMT Defender, if found in the $1200 range would be an excellent, high-quality, basic M4 carbine.

    I went the LMT route, myself.
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    Don't think the Colt 6920 is out of reach. Deals can be found. I just picked one up for $1175 .
    Last edited by vaglocker; 07-20-09 at 10:23.

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    As best I can Google it, y'all are recommending guns at the top of the food chain. For my purposes is this really necessary?

    If I "settle" for something like Stag or CMMG or Bushmaster, do I get a truly dog of a gun, or is it like settling for a Remington 700 instead of a Dakota Arms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Bryant View Post
    As best I can Google it, y'all are recommending guns at the top of the food chain. For my purposes is this really necessary?

    If I "settle" for something like Stag or CMMG or Bushmaster, do I get a truly dog of a gun, or is it like settling for a Remington 700 instead of a Dakota Arms?

    I think you'll find that most here don't buy into the "just as good as a..." concept when it comes to fighting rifles. If your willing to spend $800-900 on a rifle then there is no excuse not to save up a little more and get something as close to the TDP as possible (i.e. Colt, LMT, BCM). In the end it is up to you. If it's just going to be a plinker then by all means get the Stag or a Bushy. If you envision ever having to depend on it to save your life then spend the extra coin.
    Last edited by vaglocker; 07-20-09 at 11:22.

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