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    Quote Originally Posted by sholling View Post
    But I also think contacting Grant for a member price on a BCM based "kit" is the Cadillac.
    we get special pricing from G&R?

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    I never said not to do it. I said not to do it for the reasons he wanted as did a few others. S&W M&P15 approx. 1000.00. A BCM build or the DD XV about the same. Pretty easy to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by sholling View Post
    I'm the newbie here but it looks to me like we're getting away from the fact that the OP has found a great excuse to buy an AR15. Yet for some reason he's being told don't do it. Whether or not his son uses it for 3-4 months before going in the Marines every home should have an AR. Two (1x5.56 & 1x6.8 SPC ) if they can swing it.

    Looking at the chart and the number of police agencies buying M&P15s and a street price of right about $1000 I can't see any reason not to chose one for a homeowner rifle. But I also think contacting Grant for a member price on a BCM based "kit" is the Cadillac.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    we get special pricing from G&R?
    No clue I'm just going by someone elses post in this thread.

    Edit: the referred to post suggested member prices on complete rifles.
    Last edited by sholling; 07-20-09 at 17:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Bryant View Post
    I appreciate your input here, Failure, but I need to put it in a context. Some questions:


    1) Are you in the Marines?
    2) Do you know what kind of "real stuff" a dad is allowed to buy and send to his son after he gets to Afghanistan?
    3) Do you know about the research done after WWII connecting success on the battlefield with expertise with a firearm BEFORE joining the service ("Those country boys sure can shoot!")?
    4) Do you think that growing up in the woods with a .22 has helped my son or hindered him? Have his twice-a-week trips to the range and countless hunts with me helped him or hindered him in becoming proficient with his USMC weapons?
    5) Do you think growing up in the woods with an AR-15 would have helped him or hindered him?
    6) What do you mean by "training scars"?
    7) What's the difference betwen a "cobbled together" gun and one put together properly?
    Bill,

    I understand you are trying to do the right thing for your son before he enlists. However when individuals such as F2S comment on your question I would take that advice to heart. In case you didn't notice, F2S is a designated "Subject Matter Expert" on the site.

    To quote John Wayne777 (a forum moderator) from a different topic: "M4C gives some individuals the title of Subject Matter Expert because of their extensive real-world experience in elite military and some LE organizations where they lived and breathed combat and preparation for combat. This designation allows posters to have a good grasp of their background when they are reading the contributions of the SME's. If someone doesn't already know where Larry Vickers or Kyle DeFoor used to work, they could recognize by the yellow title that they are hearing from individuals who are eminently qualified to offer authoritative opinions."

    I think that is the context you are looking for.

    Your idea to reward your son for his hard work and to keep him motivated is well intentioned, however I think he would be better served if you followed F2S' advice!

    Maybe wait a little longer, using that time to save for a better M4, and give it to him as a graduation present from boot camp! Then he'll have a quality weapon that he he knows how to use and maintain!

    Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth!
    "WORTHY OF TRUST AND CONFIDENCE"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citpitch02 View Post
    Bill,

    I understand you are trying to do the right thing for your son before he enlists. However when individuals such as F2S comment on your question I would take that advice to heart. In case you didn't notice, F2S is a designated "Subject Matter Expert" on the site.

    To quote John Wayne777 (a forum moderator) from a different topic: "M4C gives some individuals the title of Subject Matter Expert because of their extensive real-world experience in elite military and some LE organizations where they lived and breathed combat and preparation for combat. This designation allows posters to have a good grasp of their background when they are reading the contributions of the SME's. If someone doesn't already know where Larry Vickers or Kyle DeFoor used to work, they could recognize by the yellow title that they are hearing from individuals who are eminently qualified to offer authoritative opinions."

    I think that is the context you are looking for.

    Your idea to reward your son for his hard work and to keep him motivated is well intentioned, however I think he would be better served if you followed F2S' advice!

    Maybe wait a little longer, using that time to save for a better M4, and give it to him as a graduation present from boot camp! Then he'll have a quality weapon that he he knows how to use and maintain!

    Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth!
    My apologies for any offense I've tossed out there. I appreciate everybody's help. Give me a few days and I'll figure out what this forum is all about. Let's see, yellow title means listen to this guy. OK got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Bryant View Post
    My apologies for any offense I've tossed out there. I appreciate everybody's help. Give me a few days and I'll figure out what this forum is all about. Let's see, yellow title means listen to this guy. OK got it.
    No worries Bill!

    If you'll notice my join date and relatively low post count, I tend to do a hundred times more reading than posting! That's what is great about this site as compared to others. If you spend some time searching you can find the answers to almost any question you have. And if you do post a question you will generally get honest, well intentioned answers without the usual sniping found on other forums.

    You have the right attitude and will do well here!

    Keep us posted on your son's progress!

    Cheers!
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    Bill-
    No offense whatsoever. PM inbound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sholling View Post
    I'm the newbie here but it looks to me like we're getting away from the fact that the OP has found a great excuse to buy an AR15. Yet for some reason he's being told don't do it. Whether or not his son uses it for 3-4 months before going in the Marines every home should have an AR. Two (1x5.56 & 1x6.8 SPC ) if they can swing it.

    Looking at the chart and the number of police agencies buying M&P15s and a street price of right about $1000 I can't see any reason not to chose one for a homeowner rifle. But I also think contacting Grant for a member price on a BCM based "kit" is the Mac Truck solution.
    Who is Grant and how do I contact him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Bryant View Post
    Who is Grant and how do I contact him?
    C4IGrant www.gandrtactical.com
    Last edited by bkb0000; 07-21-09 at 13:27.

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