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Thread: KISS rifle Mandatory Upgrades/Mods

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    I don't like Ak's for KISS/SHTF as to me and million of others they shout FOE instead of friend.

    To me the simplest KISS is our (KAC) E3 bolt and bolt extension, as your not going to have much to do with it until you need a new barrel at 20-25k as whats more simple than a part that give 3x+ the lifespan...
    My father and I had a talk about the physiological effect weapons choice can have just the other day. He mentioned his friend telling of his experience in Vietnam which the sight and sound of Thomposons literally frightened the enemy (maybe they'd seen gangster flicks?).

    Americans are definitely used to the idea that the good guys shoot AR15s/M16s while the bad guys use AKs.
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    Thanks Guys,

    So my philosophy is basically that yes the gun was purchased both for the enjoyment of the platform in regards to target shooting, the lower cost of ammo (at the time) vs. my other higher calibers, and of course defensive purposes in certain emergency situations. The last of course being the ultimate reason for choosing the AR, but also hopefully the one situation that never comes up.

    I want the gun to be natural for me to use, and it has very much reached that point for me. So for me the KISS philosophy would be that I only add things I would absolutely NEED that will not hinder my learning curve, or add outside factors regarding ergonomics, weight, extra training ext.

    Right now I have an MP15 OR with a two point sling that I like but may switch out, and a BIS set up. I also own the Surefire G2 and I use it for work, but am also interested in mounting it. I have heard enough suggestions about the H buffer (and Grant in particular seems to insist in every thread in which it comes up), that I plan on switching this out.

    What about an extractor upgrade?

    Regarding accessories, here are my thoughts: The Magpul MOE hand guard so I can mount the Surefire (all I want), and an Aimpoint M2. At that point the gun seems finished to me.

    The_Katar my apologies, this is still new to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmanus View Post

    What about an extractor upgrade?
    I'm still fairly new to AR shooting myself and my limited AR shooting hasn't yielded any extractor failures yet in 3,000 rounds. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. However, extractors are a wearable item. It wouldn't hurt to pick up a couple "extractor upgrade kits" seen here:

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-E...20%203pack.htm

    They are easy to swap out and it can be done in about a minute. Swap them when you wear them out. Also consider a bolt-rebuild kit. It wouldn't hurt to have an extra complete bolt in the case of an emergency.
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    Spare BCG

    Rather then make a new thread I will post this hear as it is relevant.

    If you were to purchase a spare BCG for your rifle which one would you buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmanus View Post
    The_Katar my apologies, this is still new to me.
    No need for an apology, dude.


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    fair enough. But I hate being the new guy in the room that tells the joke everyone has heard a million times...

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    I would rather have 3 KISS rifles, than one mall ninjaed out one. Just makes sense logically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmanus View Post
    Rather then make a new thread I will post this hear as it is relevant.

    If you were to purchase a spare BCG for your rifle which one would you buy?
    BCM, LMT, FN, Colt...

    Daniels Defense BCGs are available from Midway for $149.

    That said I don't think I would go with a whole BCG. I would just get a good HP/MPI bolt and firing pin as spares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decodeddiesel View Post
    BCM, LMT, FN, Colt...

    Daniels Defense BCGs are available from Midway for $149.

    That said I don't think I would go with a whole BCG. I would just get a good HP/MPI bolt and firing pin as spares.
    Is this because the carrier doesn't take as much stress, and therefore fails less (an assumption on my part)? Or is it for another reason?
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    A total Kiss rifle would have a white light and a front night sight. Optics to make you a much better shooter and once you can afford one get one. But you can be effective without them in most typical short range self defense situations. I did a test on speed and accuracy of various optics vs irons and at ranges less than 25 yards the difference is nill. Most leo patrol rifle shooters occur at less than 25 yards. So basically a KISS rifle does not need to have an optic. They are nice and will help you shoot better exponentially as range increases. But like I said before you can do ok without them at the ranges you are mostly likely to need them in real life.
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