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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw02 View Post
    Wouldn't one part to do a job rather than two be simpler?
    A foam earplug stuffed in the "gap" is cheaper and simpler than a gapper or a new trigger guard.

    It won't be as cool for the photo thread though

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    Quote Originally Posted by M76F View Post
    A foam earplug stuffed in the "gap" is cheaper and simpler than a gapper or a new trigger guard.

    It won't be as cool for the photo thread though
    Maybe i didn't have the proper foam ear plug when I tried this. It either fell out or, when fully pushed in, didn't cover the sharp edges. Can you recommend one?
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    From LF, borebrush posted:

    What I find comical, is how KISS has become some specific set up. KISS is a mindset or a practice... an ethos, or an SOP even.

    If mission dictates a T1 with a magnifier, with an ATPIAL and weapons light. I'll still keep it KISS by using good mounts, and setting the rifle up properly. It's about streamlining your kit for ease of use (economy of movement) while not sacrificing reliability. With that gucci gun, I'd keep it KISS by not complicating the thing with two pigtails rubber banded to my foregrip. I'd use a clicky cap at 10oclock, and a pressure plate at 9. I'd keep it simple by re balancing the weapon with a heavier stock.

    Keeping It Simple doesn't equate to Keeping It Stock. [emphasis added]

    The CSAT-24/7 stripe combo isn't a bare bones sighting system. It's mission specific kit that greatly enhances rifles with A2 receivers. It keeps it simple by eliminating the use of stacking and hanging a bunch of bullshit mounts off of that carrying handle. Most of those mouthbreathers preaching KISS and running their GI irons have no idea that their Irons feature BZO shift between their two apertures. Thats not keeping it simple.

    Some think that using a used set of worn out KAC rails that might jiggle a bit, a KISS solution. Well how are you keeping it simple if your ATPIAL is jiggling and your zero is moving?

    My KISS rifle is a LWRCI M6A1. It's reliable, accurate, and set up for streamlined economy of movement.

    90% of what what the E-sperts spew about KISS isn't simple at all. It's cheap and streamlined to the point that they hold little advantage in adverse shooting conditions. If it doesn't give you an unfair advantage without excessive cost to your ease of use and its not helping shoot within the badguys OODA loop, its not keeping it simple.

    Whats not considered is there are inherent variables to consider with primitive or outdated kit. Those variables are counter to keeping your shit simple. Keeping it simple is about keeping your OODA loop short and as uncluttered as possible.
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    I just see this stuff everyday and it drives me up the wall that people hang a price tag on KISS. So they pay out in full on every iteration or sore shoulders and bitchin backs.
    Last edited by Submariner; 08-22-09 at 17:01.
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    The nugget as I see it

    Quote Originally Posted by borebrush
    Keeping it simple is about keeping your OODA loop short and as uncluttered as possible.
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    all a KISS rifle REALLY needs, bare minimum is:

    -sling

    -tritium front sight

    -light

    Assuming you started with a quality base gun...

    All this can be done, very much on the cheap.
    Last edited by they; 08-23-09 at 19:23.

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    all a KISS rifle REALLY needs, IMO, bare minimum is:

    -sling

    -tritium front sight

    -light

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    Not aimed at They as I was thinking about this as I was reading previous posts, but for my $0.02 KISS often gets mixed up with cheap.

    KISS is about efficiency and economy of action. The most efficient and effective way of accomplishing your goal.

    Sometimes KISS can be pretty expensive, but it's usually only expensive once. Going cheap can be very expensive over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87GN View Post
    What light mount is this, and is that a spot for a QD swivel I see below the light?
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    KISS means Keep It Simple Stupid, so do it. i would have a reliable carbine and add a light, good sling, and some reliable mags. don't need an optic, bipod, laser, nvd or vfg. my KISS rifle would be a Colt or BCM. just my 2sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rychencop View Post
    KISS means Keep It Simple Stupid, so do it. i would have a reliable carbine and add a light, good sling, and some reliable mags. don't need an optic, bipod, laser, nvd or vfg. my KISS rifle would be a Colt or BCM. just my 2sense.
    Excellent points.

    ...but, you can't see your irons at night, so without an optic, a tritium front sight is necessary (forget the rear) IMO.

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