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Thread: KISS rifle Mandatory Upgrades/Mods

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rider79 View Post
    I like that setup alot, not dropping $225 to do it though. That would not be KISS!
    You can achieve the same effect using a Midwest Industries mount for a standard FSB and a VLTOR G2 mount for a lot less. I run that setup on my 6920...I'll have to get some pics when I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Wayne777 View Post
    You can achieve the same effect using a Midwest Industries mount for a standard FSB and a VLTOR G2 mount for a lot less. I run that setup on my 6920...I'll have to get some pics when I get home.
    Let me help you with that.

    MIDWEST INDUSTRIES AR-15/M16 MX-SERIES TACTICAL LIGHT MOUNT $35
    VLTOR SCOUT MOUNT TACTICAL FLASHLIGHT WEAPON MOUNT $35
    SUREFIRE G2 NITROLON HANDHELD LIGHT $39
    TOTAL $109

    I also have the clickable tailcap which adds $40 to the price, and the shock-isolated bezel for the incan bulbs that I'm not even sure they sell anymore. Use a G2 LED and you shouldn't need the shock isolation.





    view through optic (to show it doesn't interfere)

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    Even cheaper - my SF 852C dropped off when the ARMS mount gave way after being banged on the doorframe while I was trying to shoot someone.

    I took my M1 IR light in cheap weaver rail (off my helmet) and hose clamped a G2 to it. Nothing sexy - but it worked for a lot of rounds till I got a Scout Light issued.

    FYI I don;t like clickable tail caps on 'use' guns as under stress you can click them on when you least want.

    A regular G2 will hold up to a lot of 5.56mm and or 7.62 even without the LED head and no shock bezel.
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    I wouldn't spend the money on those parts (clickable cap, isolated bezel) today but wanted to list everything that was in the pic before someone asked. I would probably opt for the LED but more for the runtime than the shock iso, but I do think the LED are sturdier over the long haul.
    Last edited by rob_s; 08-25-09 at 13:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinB View Post
    Even cheaper - my SF 852C dropped off when the ARMS mount gave way after being banged on the doorframe while I was trying to shoot someone.

    I took my M1 IR light in cheap weaver rail (off my helmet) and hose clamped a G2 to it.
    Hoseclamps are old skool enough to be KISS, IMO.

    I never could get used to the spontaneous-detach ARMS mounts, although mine just fell off from shooting at paper targets which is decidedly less awesome than having them jump off the gun when you're trying to kinetically pacify an insurgent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcmanus View Post
    Hey All,

    After a year with my M&P15 I have decided that I am leaning more towards keeping the rifle a KISS as I am more then happy with it's performance, and I feel like all the add ons offered in the AR world are more aesthetic for most people then they are functional (no offense). The reason for this thought is that after 1500 rounds through my gun, I still feel like I have another 1000 or so to go before my muscle memory regarding site picture, fore end grip, ext come completely natural. I'm getting better but the last thing I want to do is add say a fore end grip, or another button, or an optic that I then have to learn.

    I do however want to make sure that the gun functions at peak performance. What are some of the mandatory upgrades that you all add to your KISS rifles? Consider the answers being directed towards the rookie community.
    Dmcmanus,

    Thanks for posting your original question. I am in the same boat as you, but hesitate to post questions in this forum due to being new to the black rifle and not knowing how to word my questions to get the best answer. I know the thread got off track several times, but some of the answers to your original question where pretty infomative. I will keep reading and searching and hopefully be able to find more answers to questions those of us new to the black rifle need to progress. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightFighter View Post
    Dmcmanus,

    Thanks for posting your original question. I am in the same boat as you, but hesitate to post questions in this forum due to being new to the black rifle and not knowing how to word my questions to get the best answer. I know the thread got off track several times, but some of the answers to your original question where pretty infomative. I will keep reading and searching and hopefully be able to find more answers to questions those of us new to the black rifle need to progress. Thanks again
    Don't be afraid to ask questions on here. Just don't be thin skinned.



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Don't be afraid to ask questions on here. Just don't be thin skinned.



    C4
    Dont think I am thinned skinned. Just dont understand why people who have much more experience than I do feel they need to bash me for asking what they consider is a stupid question. Sure there are things I might be able to find if I knew the right search parameters. However, learning to search on a new site is difficult at times. Why not just tell me what parameters to use and not bash newbies. Yes I read the stickies at the start of a forum, but stickies dont answer all newbie questions. Like many post say each person is different and we have different questions.

    Just like in this thread. I dont know there were so many different definitions of KISS. The more I read the more I learn, but there are still specific questions I would like answered.

    By the way thanks for responding to my post. I have read many of your replys and you always seems to respond to peoples question with a positive response. You and Rob and a few others are the one of the main resonse I continue to come to this forum even if I dont ask questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightFighter View Post
    Just dont understand why people who have much more experience than I do feel they need to bash me for asking what they consider is a stupid question.
    Sometimes some of the guys who have been around for a while and have seen the same questions get asked over and over again get frustrated when they come up. It's not an excuse, but it is an explanation.

    I won't tolerate dogpiles or bashing of new members who ask questions... but I also expect new members to read the stickied threads and to have somewhat thick skins.

    It's a two-way respect street and I watch out for it. We expect our senior members to act as mentors to our newer members. And we expect our inexperienced guys to pay close attention to the advice that is offered.

    Last edited by Jay Cunningham; 08-25-09 at 16:08.

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