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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrowne1 View Post
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    It would probably help if you explained the basis for your opinions, specifically the experience and training that you claim underlies your opinion. That would be particularly helpful given that some of us have been trained by the factory armorer instructors and they sang a different tune than you.
    It really would be bad form on my part to go into too much detail in that respect. I'd be willing to discuss some of my experience, and give the basis of my opinions, but they won't be welcomed by everyone in the thread. It will prolong the argument, and I get the impression that this would not be allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennith13 View Post
    Ironic that in a place where people gather to discuss firearms they aren't allowed to harmlessly express their opinions and experiences. Private forum, your rules. That's fine. I just find it ironic.
    Ahh suffer the martyr.

    Had you expressed it as opinion you would have been fine. In fact many others expressed similar opinions but they don't seem to have been "martyred" during posting. Of course they were a bit more circumspect and thoughtful in their responses.

    Calling people lazy who don't subscribe to your cleaning ritual is not "harmlessly express[ing your] opinion. In fact it's denigrating the opinions of others.

    Just a thought, check your dictionary for "irony" it's not really applicable here.
    It is bad policy to fear the resentment of an enemy. -Ethan Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennith13 View Post
    It really would be bad form on my part to go into too much detail in that respect. I'd be willing to discuss some of my experience, and give the basis of my opinions, but they won't be welcomed by everyone in the thread. It will prolong the argument, and I get the impression that this would not be allowed.
    I don't speak for the forum staff here, but I doubt anyone will jump on you for giving some background on your own training and experience relative to the family of weapons to which this entire set of forums is dedicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennith13 View Post
    It really would be bad form on my part to go into too much detail in that respect. I'd be willing to discuss some of my experience, and give the basis of my opinions, but they won't be welcomed by everyone in the thread. It will prolong the argument, and I get the impression that this would not be allowed.
    First hand information is king here. There are a number of well known folks that post here and their experience is out there. The rest of us try and give folks some impression of where our knowledge comes from.

    For me that's from stickies and training classes.

    I seriously doubt that you were doing anything so incredibly ninja that you can't tell us what you're talking about.

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    nevermind.
    Last edited by Gutshot John; 07-28-09 at 17:12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennith13 View Post
    It really would be bad form on my part to go into too much detail in that respect. I'd be willing to discuss some of my experience, and give the basis of my opinions, but they won't be welcomed by everyone in the thread. It will prolong the argument, and I get the impression that this would not be allowed.
    No, please flesh out your background for us so that you can establish some credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thopkins22 View Post
    First hand information is king here. There are a number of well known folks that post here and their experience is out there. The rest of us try and give folks some impression of where our knowledge comes from.

    For me that's from stickies and training classes.

    I seriously doubt that you were doing anything so incredibly ninja that you can't tell us what you're talking about.
    Lol. That's not what I meant by my statement.

    I was about to discuss those things when the mod stepped in. The problem is, this will start a pissing match. Now, pissing matches end sooner or later, but that doesn't seem acceptable here. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's forum. This is how I am. I can be difficult, and I do speak in absolutes on occasion. People don't like that.

    Detailing all my experience here would be bad form because it will temporarily make the argument a bit worse. Some of where I come from I am personally not comfortable illustrating on the internet, but the rest is sufficient to get the point across. It has nothing to do with ninja moves, and everything to do with the fact that I am a fairly private person. I'd be glad to discuss in general the effects I've seen, though it will spark more debate.

    It is better to discuss cause and effect as it applies to how the parts interact, and not focus on who did what, until those things are brought up as a counterpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennith13 View Post
    I was about to discuss those things when the mod stepped in. The problem is, this will start a pissing match. Now, pissing matches end sooner or later, but that doesn't seem acceptable here. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's forum. This is how I am. I can be difficult, and I do speak in absolutes on occasion. People don't like that.
    Debate is welcome and encouraged. Personal attacks, and name calling, serve no purpose in the exchange and debate of good information. Please be respectful to your fellow shooting enthusiasts whether they are new shooters or seasoned veterans.

    Posting comments with the purpose to start conflicts with members, libel persons or groups, or to disrupt the overall running of the forum will not be allowed.

    Differences in opinion are quite common amongst the firearms industry, as there are few absolutes in this industry. And as a result, debates over preferences are common. We hope you use this forum to share and exchange ideas and not to win arguments. It is the bigger man that agrees to disagree without being disagreeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennith13 View Post
    Nope, we wouldn't want an argument on the internet. That would be a bad thing.

    Ironic that in a place where people gather to discuss firearms they aren't allowed to harmlessly express their opinions and experiences. Private forum, your rules. That's fine. I just find it ironic.

    So, now we can't hash out just who is telling the truth, because it might provoke a little more argument.

    There is a lot of misinformation being peddled on the net about AR pattern rifles nowadays, and I don't see how that is going to stop until two people can finish an argument. Too much "operator" and "tactical", around for anyone's good, nowadays.

    You say something, and try to present your side, someone get's their panties in a bunch, and it is closed before you have a chance to bolster your position.

    Well, that is fine, just ironic, is all.

    We are delving into the basis of our respective opinions now, and we need to "throttle back - right F'ing now", as if we are about to come to blows over it? I'm about to make a sandwich and go fix a doorbell. Nobody is going to be hurt over a little argument. My blood pressure isn't rising over a stupid internet debate.

    Do what you will.

    He can have his little tacticool back-patting session, for all I care. I'm just presenting information, and calling a spade a spade. If that isn't allowed here, so be it.

    You can expect more of it from me, and if you aren't going to like it, just say the word, and I'll leave for good. You don't need to ban me, I'll leave of my own accord. This is your forum, as I said, with your rules. If all I'm going to do is break them, I'll make it easy on you and skip town.


    I heard they have a great site called ARF... or something like that... I think you might fit in very nicely there.
    Have a nice time over there...
    Last edited by d90king; 07-28-09 at 17:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Aherne View Post
    I disagree with almost everything written here.
    Any chance of hearing your take on cleaning, PA?

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